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Appeal to All Alumni To Take Necessary Action - Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 11:49

Dear Alumni:

Dr. Santanu Kumar Karmakar, 83 ME & Secretary, BECDUTA prepared a draft to be used by all alumni world wide to contact appropriate persons to convert our Alma Mater to an Institute of National Importance. Here what you need to do:

1) Add your name and address to the draft.

2) You either email and/or fax the letter to as many elected persons you feel we need. At least we intend to send ot the President of India, Chief Minister of West Bengal. Contact information is provided at the end.

3) If you have any questions, please contact Dr. S Karmakar at skk @ mech dot becs dot ac dot in (please remove space and relpace "dot" with "."). Dr. Kajal Gupta, 56 CE, kajal_gupta @ dfrc dot nasa dot gov agreed to contact Indian Embassy in DC for action.


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Your Name & Address

Date:

To

The President:

Sub: Proposal for conversion of Bengal Engineering College  (A Deemed University) into an Institute of National Importance.


The Bengal Engineering College, now a 'Deemed University', was established in 1856 with the objective of introducing engineering education in the country.  B. E. College, Shibpur, as was popularly known, is one of the oldest engineering institutions in India having a long and checkered past.  In recognition of its services to the Nation in the field of education and research over the years this Century old Government Engineering College was conferred the status of a Deemed University in 1992.  The sole aim being to impart quality education and be engaged in advanced research in the context of continuing development and innovation within an organization, which is ambitious, efficient and accountable.

In 1984, the Bhabotosh Datta Commission on Higher Education also recommended establishment of a Technical University in West Bengal and suggested that the Bengal Engineering College with its well organized infrastructure and potential for steering undergraduate  & postgraduate programs and providing opportunities for applied research could be the right choice for such an upgradation. 

The term 'Deemed University' is a new concept in the University system. A 'Deemed University' has all features, power and functions of a 'full fledged' University except that it has only one campus and does not have affiliated Colleges.  The institute itself can function as a University with statutory powers under the UGC Act. Incidentally the UGC also favours upgrading an institution with very good performance and infrastructure to the status of a 'Deemed University' so that the institution, instead of being entangled into problems of affiliated colleges may itself grow into a 'Centre of Excellence'.  The administrative functioning of IITs, IISc. - Bangalore, Indian  Statistical Institute etc. is more or less similar to that of 'Deemed  University'.

With a view to the above the members of the faculty, alumni and students of Bengal Engineering College mooted the idea of acquiring the status of a 'Deemed University' with the mission to elevate the  standard of this premiere institution to a national stature through  incorporation of an element of continuous upgradation of infrastructure and teaching-learning methods and persistent effort to create the  ambience of a Centre of Advance Research.

With timely help and patronage from our the then Hon'ble Chief Minister, Sri Jyoti Basu and the due recognition given by the UGC / MHRD authorities to our past performance, infra-structure and potentiality  the Bengal Engineering College was declared as a 'Deemed University'  in 1992.  The Bengal Engineering College (a Deemed University) started functioning as an autonomous University on and from 16th February, 1993.    

Since then B. E. College (a D.U.) has been stridently pursuing the cause of technical education by opening up new programs, like M.Sc.  in Applied Sciences in four disciplines viz. Physics, Chemistry,  Mathematics & Geology, M.B.A. in B E. College School of Management Sciences, B.E. in Information Technology, P.G. degree & diploma in  Information Technology in the School of Information Technology, part time P.G. degree courses in Civil Engg, & Metallurgy for practicing  engineers. Besides, there has been remarkable enhancement of research work by way of publications in international journals of repute, and  bringing in large number of projects from AICTE, UGC and several other  funding agencies. But, while trying to proliferate, the institute is handicapped because  of acute shortage of fund. Opening up of new courses without corresponding increase in faculty strength, increasing the intake of students without corresponding increase of infrastructural facilities in laboratories, library and hostels have grossly affected the  academic excellence, a hall mark of this institute.

The growth of technical institutions needs substantial financial  inputs at regular intervals. Funding becomes restricted under the  present system of funding by the State Govt./ Central Govt. and all  round development of this institution to keep pace with the changing technical scenarios becomes difficult. Now that the B. E. College is going to celebrate its 150th anniversary (in 2006) it is imperative  that we should look up to convert it into an institute of national  importance. Keeping this in view it will be judicious to appoint a committee by the State Govt. / Central Govt. to look into the strength and weakness of the existing status of this Deemed University and to  suggest ways and means to convert this age old institution into an  institute of national importance under the funding by the State Govt ./Central Govt.  It is proposed that the said committee may be constituted consisting  of nominee from the State Govt., teachers' representative from the  Deemed University, nominees from the UGC, MHRD, AICTE, distinguished alumni of the erstwhile B. E. College from India and abroad engaged in academics/industry, academicians from I.I.Ts., I.I.Sc.-Bangalore  etc.  It should be entrusted with the task of reviewing all aspects of the Deemed University since its inception in 1993 and recommend  steps for preparing this institution for achieving the status of national importance in its 150th anniversary, which are due in 2006.

A remarkable service can be rendered to the people of the State and  also to the nation if it can be elevated to the status of I.I.T. or I.I.Sc. as the contemporary institutes like Roorkee, Guindy etc.  have been elevated to the institutes of national stature. The State Govt. should, therefore, spare no pains to plead with the MHRD, Government of India to grant national status to this glorious institute of yore. The formation of the aforesaid committee and its  reports may play a crucial role in convincing the Central Govt. about  the importance of this pioneering engineering institute which has been  consistently engaged in the U.G., P.G. and research programs for a  pretty long time and produced engineers of repute working here and  abroad.

Hope for a favourable response.


With regards,

Yours faithfully,


Your Name

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Contact Info:
1) President of India:  presidentofindia@rb.nic.in 91-11-23015321 Fax: 91-11-23017290 & 23017824

2) Hon'ble Prime Minister: 91-11-23012312 (O) and 91-11-23018939 (Res).

3)  Department of Education, Ministry of Human Resource Development,Government of India,Shastri Bhawan, New Delhi-110001
Fax 91-11-23381355,91-11-23382947 Telex 031-61336  Email : webmaster.edu@sb.nic.in

4) Chief Minister, West Bengal, Ph. 91-33-22145555, Fax. 91-33-22145480








Date:

Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:28:44 +0530 (IST)


The relevent contents of e-mails of our alumni may be posted.
The follwing addition of words/e-mail addresses in the posted appeal is
desirable.

1. The Hon'ble President of India instead of the President.
2. The Hon'ble CM of Govt. of West Bengal : cm@wb.gov.in
3. Dr. M.M.Joshi, MHRD, Govt. of India: hrm@sb.nic.in
4. The Hon'ble Prime Minister of
India:(webmail)-http://pmindia.nic.in/write.htm


5) Sri Jawhar Sircar, Principal Secretary, Higher Education
Department, Bikash Bhavan, Kolkata - 700 091. jawharsircar@yahoo.co.in

6) Shri Satyasadhan Chakraborty,
Hon'ble Minister-in-Charge of Higher Education,
Government of West Bengal,
Bikash Bhavan, Salt Lake, Kolkata - 700 091, India.
Best wishes,
Santanu Karmakar
 

Comments by Readers
Comments by Tanmoy Chatterjee from India on Saturday, September 27, 2003 at 07:50 - IP Logged
To BECAA members,
Sirs,
I am a fresher of 2003 batch of BECDU(EE).It was very dissapointing to
find out in the recently concluded councelling session of jee2003 that the fellow students and the concerned peo-
ple no more favour B.E.COLLEGE as the premier institute of W.B. Instead
jadavpur University was given the top preference.Anyway,it's heart warming to find out that you all X-students are doing their level best to rescue this glourious institute and thus help us,the present students of B.E.College.
Regards
Tanmoy Chatterjee
Comments by Webmaster for Jyoti R Sengupta from Canada on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 at 21:41 - IP Logged
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 12:05:21 -0400
From: Jyoti R. Sengupta
To: Dr. S. Karmakar
Subject: BE College to become a University
Dear Dr. Karmakar,
Let me introduce ourselves. We have recently decided to form an
Association of BE College alumni in Canada. We have close links with
similar associations in USA. But recent administration problems caused by
the 9/11 incident neccessitates an independent organization based and
registered in Canada. A steering Committee has been formed and I am the
Coordinator of the Committee. We are in the process of registering the
Association.
Whatever might be the reason and there is no point in debating on
it, BE College has fallen behind other Institutions of Applied Science
and Engineering such as the IIT's and I would say even Jadavpur. We have
now a golden opportunity to reach our rightful place which is right in
front and centre. We should not lose this opportunity. Personally I
feel that we should strive for the following:
a.. Teach only Applied Sciences, Engineering and Architecture and not
try to become a 'run of the mill' university
b.. Retain Residential Status
c.. Be under Central jurisdiction and not the State. This will get us
out of local political influence. Jadavpur has avoided it thanks to
persons like Dr. Shanker Sen. But Calcutta University is a typical example
of deterioration due to local influence.
d.. Being under the Center will attract higher funding which in turn
will attract better faculty and students.
e.. Under whatever name we might assume, we will still maintain our
heritage of a premier technical institution.
I understand that you are spearheading a movement to stem the State
Government's intention of turning BE College into ' Shibpur
University'. I have no bones to pick on the name 'Shibpur'. We commonly refer to
ourselves as "shibpur' graduates as opposed to 'Jadavpur'. But I am
definitely against becoming an institution which teaches all subjects on
earth and a non residential institution.
I do not know whether I am in the same wavelength as your movement.
But I would definitely like to present to our membership what you
intend to achieve and let them decide individually. I understand that you
have prepared several draft letters to be sent to the State and Central
Authorities in India.


Hope to hear from you soon
With best regards
Jyoti R. Sengupta (1954 Civil)
Coordinator, Steering Committee BECAAC
Comments by Webmaster for Tarun Basu from United States on Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 07:36 - IP Logged
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 23:01:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: "TARUN BASU"
Subject: Proposal for converting Bengal Engineering College (Deemed University) into a National Institute of excellence.
To: hrm@sb.nic.in
TARUN KUMAR BASU: 6420 Scotsbluff Court, Arlington,
TX 76001-5496, Tel. 817-419-9325
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Dr. M.M. Joshi August 23, 2003
Cabinet Minister
Dept. of Education
Ministry of Human Resource Development
Government of India
Shastri Bhawan
New Delhi 110001

Dear Dr. Joshi:
The Bengal Engineering College, now a 'Deemed
University', was established in 1856 with the
objective of introducing engineering education in the
country. B. E. College (popularly known as Shibpur
Engineering College) is the second oldest engineering
institution in India with a long and checkered past.
In 1984, the Bhabotosh Datta Commission on Higher
Education (at W.B.) recommended establishment of a
Technical University in West Bengal and suggested that
the Bengal Engineering College with its well organized
infrastructure and admired undergraduate and post-
graduate programs that provide opportunities for
applied research could be the right candidate for such
an upgrade.
As you know, the term 'Deemed University' is a
relatively new concept in the University system. A
'Deemed University' has all features, power and
functions of a 'full fledged' University except that
it has only one campus and does not have affiliated
Colleges. The institute itself function as a
University with statutory powers under the UGC Act.
Incidentally the UGC also favours upgrading an
institution with very good performance and
infrastructure to the status of a 'Deemed University'
so that the institution, instead of being entangled
into problems of affiliated colleges may itself grow
into a 'Centre of Excellence'. The administrative
functioning of IITs, IISc, ISI, IIMs is that of
'Deemed University'.
In view of the above, the members of the faculty,
alumni and students of Bengal Engineering College
mooted the idea of acquiring the status of a 'Deemed
University' with the mission to elevate the standard
of this premiere institution to a national center of
excellence. This can only be achieved through
continuous upgrade of infrastructure, faculty and
persistent efforts to create the environment for
carrying out Advanced Research.
In recognition of its services to the Nation in
engineering education and research over the years &
infrastructure as well as its potential, the UGC/MHRD
authorities recommended that this Century-old
Government Engineering College be conferred the status
of a Deemed University in 1992. The timely help and
patronage from our the then Chief Minister (Mr. Jyoti
Basu) was essential for this status change. The
Bengal Engineering College (Deemed University) started
functioning as an autonomous body on and from 16th
February 1993. The sole aim of the institution is to
impart quality education and to remain engaged in
advanced research through continued development and
innovation with ambitious, efficient and accountable
program.
Since then, B. E. College (D.U.) has been vigorously
pursuing the cause of technical education by opening
up new programs, like M.Sc. in four disciplines viz.
Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics and Geology, M.B.A. in
the School of Management Sciences, B.E. in Information
Technology, P.G. degree & diploma in Information
Technology in the School of Information Technology,
part time P.G. degree courses in Civil Engineering and
Metallurgy for practicing engineers. Besides, there
has been remarkable enhancement of research work as
evidenced by the publications in international
journals of repute and funding for a large number of
projects from AICTE, UGC and other agencies. However,
flow of fund/grant has not kept pace with the
expansion of programs. The acute shortage of fund is
hindering the proper functioning of the Institute.
Opening up of new courses without corresponding
increase in faculty strength, increasing the intake of
students without corresponding increase of
infrastructures (such as facilities for laboratories,
library and hostels) have grossly affected the
academic excellence, a hallmark of this Institute.
To maintain the growth of technical institutions,
substantial financial support is required at regular
intervals. This financial support is restricted under
the present system of funding by the State
Govt./Central Govt. and it is becoming increasingly
difficult for this institution to keep pace with the
changing technical environment. Now that the B. E.
College is going to celebrate its 150th anniversary in
2006, it is imperative that we consider converting it
into a National Institute that will be a center of
excellence for engineering and science education. As
India becomes a part of global service economy, it
will need more world-class institutions that will
train technocrats to lead the country. Although the
State Government is supposed to initiate the process,
I would urge you, as a matter of national interest, to
start the process by appointing a committee to look
into this issue. This committee will look into the
strengths and weaknesses of the existing status of
B.E. College (Deemed University) and suggest ways and
means to convert this age-old institution into an
institute of national importance with the funding from
the Central Govt. The committee may consist of
nominee from the State Govt., teachers' representative
from the Deemed University, nominees from the UGC,
MHRD, AICTE, and distinguished alumni of the erstwhile
B. E. College from India and abroad engaged in
academics/industry, academicians from IITs, IISc etc.
It should be entrusted with the task of reviewing all
aspects of the Deemed University since its inception
in 1993 and recommend steps for preparing this
institution for achieving the status of national
importance in its 150th anniversary in 2006.
A remarkable service can be rendered to the people of
the State and also to the nation if it is converted,
like the engineering colleges at Roorkee and Guindy,
to a national academy like IITs or IISc. I am sure
that this pioneering engineering institute which has
been consistently engaged in the Under-Graduate and
Post-Graduate education as well as research programs
for a long time and produced engineers of repute
working here and abroad will be a worthy National
Institute and a center of excellence. I have
requested State Government of W.B. to cooperate with
the Central Government so that this glorious institute
of yore can serve our country for years to come. I
would request you to pursue this issue as matter of
vital interest to the nation. I thank you for your
time and look forward to hearing a positive response
from you soon.
With best regards,
Tarun K. Basu,
B.E., M.E. (Cal), C.E. (Columbia), M.B.A. (Carnegie
Mellon), P.E. (NY, TX, IL, LA), M. ASCE, M. ASME
Comments by Webmaster for Tarun Basu from United States on Friday, August 22, 2003 at 22:59 - IP Logged
Subject: Status of B.E.C.D.U.
To: jawharsircar@yahoo.co.in
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 04:53:18 +0000
Shri Jawhar Sircar, Principal Secretary
Dept. of Higher Education
Govt. of West Bengal,
Writers' Buildings,
Kolkata - 700001, India
Dear Shri Sircar:
I would appreciate if you kindly pass the following letter to Shri S.S. Chakraborty, MIC, Dept. of Higher Education. Thanks for your help.
Best regards,
Tarun K. Basu
TARUN KUMAR BASU: 6420 Scotsbluff Court, Arlington, TX 76001-5496,
Tel. 817-419-9325
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Shri Satya Sadhan Chakraborty August 20, 2003
Minister-in-Charge
Dept. of Higher Education
Govt. of West Bengal,
Writers' Buildings,
Kolkata - 700001, India
Dear Shri Chakrabarty:
As an alumnus of Bengal Engineering College from the Class of 1967, I would request you to consider our views on the change of status of our beloved school. As alumni, we would like to see that our institute gets proper recognition throughout the world, commensurate with its glorious past.
I understand that the Government of West Bengal is ready to present a bill that will change the status of B.E. College from Deemed University to Full-fledged University. I learned from the news reports that West Bengal Government prefers this to the proposal mooted by the Government of India to convert it to a National Institute of excellence like IITs or IISc.
Although there are advantages and disadvantages for both proposals, it is our opinion that Government of India proposal is better for the Institute and its students. I would like to elaborate on these issues below from the perspective of a person who has resided outside India over thirty years and attended two of the best institutions in the world.
Advantages for W.B. Govt. proposal:
a) Students from W.B. will have better chance to get admitted to the engineering school as students will be selected by JEE and not by national competition.
b) Opportunity to get a teaching position in the school will definitely be greater for the residents of W.B.
c) State Government can help the school directly if there is any need. Administrators do not have to go to New Delhi to lobby Central Government for any help. Central Government help may come with conditions.
Disadvantages for W.B. proposal:
a) Degree from a new University of W.B. will not have name recognition outside the state. As a result, it will be extremely difficult for graduates from this university to get proper employment or to get admitted to the graduate schools outside India. When B.E. College was under C.U., it was easier to get admission to the graduate schools in the west as C.U. is widely known throughout the world. I understand that B.E.C.D.U. is relatively unknown even in other states of India; as a result, second tier students from average schools are considered better than top tier students from B.E.C.D.U. You should realize that nobody knows its name in U.S.A. or in any other countries outside India. Due to lack of name recognition, graduates of B.E.C.D.U. are having difficult time to pursue higher study in U.S.A. or in other countries.
b) Government of India has lot more money to spend on education than W.B. Government. So, it will be comparatively easier to get funding from Govt. of India.
Advantages of Govt. of India proposal:
a) The disadvantage of W.B. proposal points to the advantage of Govt. of India proposal. If the school is converted to the I.I.T.-Shibpur, it will have instant name recognition throughout the world. You are definitely aware that Roorke Engineering College (another century old institute) has changed to IIT-Roorke because of this. With the facilities we have at Shibpur, it is quite possible to make it the best of all IITs & W.B. will have another world-class institution of higher learning.
b) Government of India with its vast resources will be able to provide grants and funding for the improvement of the institute.
Disadvantages for Govt. of India proposal;
a) What seems disadvantages of Govt. of India proposal, is really not so. It is true that students for all-India Institutions come from national competition but it is not going to discourage the students of W.B. to compete. Students from W.B. are competing successfully throughout the world and IIT-system has a significant number of Bengali students. Besides competition will compel the students to study hard and ultimately, it will improve the standard of Bengali students. In addition, I would like to point out that large number of Bengali students getting engineering degrees from a relatively unknown school without proper recognition or employment is not going to help the State of West Bengal. They are not going to be in the positions of power in the National Government and State of West Bengal will be the ultimate looser. On the other hand even fewer Bengali students from a world-class institution will be in a position to help West Bengal in the future. This is the reason why a person in U.S.A. tries to send their kids to Ivy League schools.
b) Government of West Bengal should encourage qualified graduates from engineering schools from Bengal to get into teaching but it should not be limited to that. In order to improve the quality of engineering education, the institute must choose faculty from the best of India. This is what Sir Ashutosh Mukherjee did when he hired Sir C.V. Raman
and Dr. S. Radhakrishnan as Professors at Calcutta University. This will improve the quality of graduates; as a result, the institution will be recognized globally.
Considering the pros and cons of State University vs. National Institute, it is our view that getting National Institute is a better option for B.E.C.D.U. I understand that the views of United Front Government in W.B. is quite different from the views of Coalition Government at the Centre, yet I would request you to wear a non-partisan hat and judge the whole thing that way. As the Higher Education Minister of all the people of W.B., you should not consider the change of status of B.E.C.D.U. as a prestige issue of retaining State Govt. control of the Institute. Having lived in U.S.A. for over thirty years, I have seen how Democrats and Republicans (with diametrically opposite views) in a state work together when the interests of that state are at stake. Although your government may not like it, in our opinion, it is best for B.E.C.D.U as well for the long-term interest of the State of West Bengal. Thus, I would request you to be more of a statesman rather than a partisan and use your good office to urge the Ministry of Human Resource Development, Government of India to grant National Institute status to B.E.C.D.U., the glorious institute of yore. I thank you for your time and look forward to getting a positive response from you.
With best regards,
Tarun K. Basu,
B.E., M.E. (Cal), C.E. (Columbia), M.B.A. (Carnegie Mellon),
P.E. (NY, TX, IL, LA), M. ASCE, M. ASME
Comments by Webmaster for Dr. Kajal Gupta from United States on Friday, August 22, 2003 at 12:48 - IP Logged
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:03:14 -0700
From: Kajal Gupta
To: jaharsircar@YAHOO.CO.IN
Cc: skk@mech.becs.ac.in, kkdwivedi@yahoo.com, hrm@sb.nic.in
Subject: Upgrade of status of Bengal Engineering college
Mr. Jahar Sircar,
Principal Secretary,
Department of higher Education,
Govt. of W. Bengal,
Kolkata, India
Dear Mr. Sircar,
Kindly forward the following to the distinguished MIC of higher
education of West Bengal.
Thanking you in advance,
Sincerely,
Kajal K. Gupta
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Prof. S. S. Chakraborty
Minister -in -Charge, Dept. of higher education,
West Bengal Govt., Kolkata, India.
Dear Prof. Chakraborty,
I am writing this in support of my alma mater, the Bengal Engineering College's possible elevation to an IIT. This is motivated by my exposure to a recent announcement by the Indian PM to set up five new IIT's by upgrading promising academic institutions. Surely, the good old BE college with it's history of 150 years academic excellence deserves to be upgraded. I contacted the Indian Embassy in DC and learnt of the upgrading process and hence this communication with you.
As a distinguished Professor yourself, I am sure that you will agree with me that continued technological innovation is the key to progress and an upgrading of the BEC will ensure successful development of cutting edge technologies, beneficial to the state in particular and India in general. From my experience with academic institutions such as CALTECH in Pasadena and now at NASA for the past 25 years or so I can assure you, as you already know, that R&D is vital to a nations economic health and an upgrading of the BEC to a research oriented higher institute of learning will go a long way in ensuring such a goal.
The college has produced many exceptional professionals and it is time that it's research faculty is strengthened to continue this trend of excellence.
During the late eighties, I served in the then Indian PM's committee on Aeronautics and Space and five of us were invited to visit the various relevant Indian institutions. We were hosted by Prof Narasimhan of IISc and others such as Dr. Kalam and Dr. Narayanam and visited their then respective R&D centers. Dr. Kalam is a Hypersonic flight vehicle enthusiastic and we were so impressed with his vision of future aerospace flight. With a person like him at the helm of affairs things will improve in India and an upgrading of institutions such as BEC will be the right catalyst for that to happen. I have been deeply involved with our Hypersonic (X-43) project and a number of distinguished scientific and technical institutions are associated with us in this incredible effort and these institutions of higher learning play a leading role in the project. Therefore an upgrading of the BEC will prove to be good for Bengal and India, as well.
I am confident that you will approve my request as above and send it out to MHRD for further consideration. Let us all pull together all our resources to make this a reality and as an ex-student of the BEC we will be eternally grateful for your help in this matter. In this connection I may also add that a similar institution such as Roorkee has taken the courageous step to rise above other narrow considerations to become an IIT and it is such distinguished academicians such as yourself who can make this a reality for our institution. I am indeed apologetic for taking your time in this matter and look forward to receiving a positive reply from you in this matter, after which I plan to communicate with the relevant offices of the central government in an effort to make this a reality.
Please be invited to visit us here at Edwards, perhaps coinciding with a future Shuttle landing.
With kindest regards,
Sincerely,
Kajal K. Gupta
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D.Sc (Eng) (Lond), Ph.D (Lond), B.E. (Cal), FCGI, FIMA, FIStructE,
FAIAA,..
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Senior Technologist, NASA/DFRC, Edwards, California.
Comments by Webmaster for Dr. Kajal Gupta from United States on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 at 10:27 - IP Logged

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Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:08:38 -0700
From: Kajal Gupta
To: kkdwivedi@yahoo.com
Cc: skk@mech.becs.ac.in
Subject: Fwd: Importante-mail addresses for the proposal for conversion of B.E.College(D.U.)
Dr. K. K. Dwivedi
Embassy of India,
Washington, DC, USA
Dr. Dwivedi,
I wish to keep you informed on the issue as above and hence the enclosure. I am planning to write to the CM/WB and Dr. Joshi of MHRD in this regard. I realize that the WB government has to sponsor it first and that might be the
bottleneck.
I also plan to write the PM and Dr. Kalam in this regard. Many thanks for the information you provided me with earlier, which was very informative. Any further assistance in the matter will be greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
K. K. Gupta
CT/DFRC

Comments by Webmaster for Dr. Karmakar from India on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 at 10:21 - IP Logged
Mr. Jahar Sircar, the Principal Secretary of Department of Higher
Education of Govt. of West Bengal may be requested to forward the content of your mail to Prof. Satyasadhan Chakraborty, the MIC. The e-mail address of Sri Sircar is jaharsircar@yahoo.co.in.
Moreover, the follwing addition of words/e-mail addresses in the posted appeal is desirable.
1. The Hon'ble President of India instead of the President.
2. The Hon'ble CM of Govt. of West Bengal : cm@wb.gov.in
3. Dr. M.M.Joshi, MHRD, Govt. of India: hrm@sb.nic.in
4. The Hon'ble Prime Minister of
India:(webmail)-http: //pmindia.nic.in/write.htm
Comments by Webmaster for Parth Chakrabart from India on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 18:18 - IP Logged
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 12:11:12 +0530
From: Parth Chakrabarty
Already received Mr.Karmakar's mail .....luckily/unluckily my mail id was in his list of alumni....Have just seen ur reply...I can say its a real good one... The points u have mentioned have been a normal story for BEC for the last few years......although the campus recruitment was better from 1995-1999 but that was just because of the huge requirement in the software field. Rest r having the same stories.
Its hard to believe that no action has been taken so far to improve the situation...no one thought abt the recruitment processes....
I fully support Arpan's view abt changing the name of our college.
I left my college 5 years back and this is first time I can see this type of mail..thanks to BECDUTA....
I can share the practical experience what we receive abt our college outside calcutta.....its true that outside West Bengal people have a concept like if someone is an engg student then he must be from Jadavpur..... then we had to tell others that we r from Shibpur and it is the second oldest engg college in india..thats the only one identity!!( something like when we tell India has the second largest population in the world!!!!)...It is really pathetic but nearly all of us have faced the same situation.
Its high time all BEC alumni put together their thoughts and come forward to revive the past glories.
Mr.Karmakar could you please share with us the future plan & goals of our college,so that we can mobilize our troops?
Thanks
Partha
Comments by Webmaster for Arpan Mukherjee from India on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 18:16 - IP Logged
From: arpan mukherjee
To: skk@mech.becs.ac.in

Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: B.E.College(DU) to Shibpur University?
Dear All,
I feel extremely honored to receive this mail. Thanks a lot to SantanuDa and BECDUTA as well.
I think it is really action time to do something tangible for B.E.College.
It is the same scenario in our dear state West Bengal - just like the "Calcutta - Kolkata" issue. Big bosses take more interest in changing names rather than fortunes.
Incidentally, I visited our college last Friday. I was the junior most representative of my company, which went for campus recruitment program. The most important intension for me was to see whether our BE College as a whole has moved positively or not since we left. But it was very disappointing to see the same old story.
I am not sure whether this is the right forum or context to raise the issue. But I surely find another good opportunity.
I came across THE most important cell of the college - the Human Resource department. It is still the same sluggish, non-professional and reluctant entity. For instance, there was a delay of our entire schedule because "the sweeper has not come in time" and "the LCD projector is not available" etc etc. The responsible official not even offered a cup of tea to the corporate visitors throughout the entire morning session.
Thoroughly disappointing, disheartening and rubbish!
Who gets affected? - The most important entity of the college - the STUDENTS. I do not deny that the students of BEC have some limitations of their own. I myself also had plenty. But the college environment adds to the woe of the pupils.
I would like to suggest our respected Vice Chancellor to form a team and visit places like BIT Messra and feel the difference. For the time being let us just forget about the IITs!
I will also like to stress on the role of the students. They need to be more proactive to come to their own rescue. They need not make the same blunders what we did during our times.
Frankly speaking I do not have any knowledge of the by-laws and regulations regarding the future "All-Discipline University" status of this college. But it will be best and more feasible to maintain and revive the brand of BENGAL ENGINEERING COLLEGE, as the most premium institution under the proposed Shibpur University if it is "the inevitable".
It was really heartening and matter of pride to learn that our seniors from USA contributed immensely to set up an enviable laboratory in our campus. My contemporaries are yet to be so capable as our elder brothers. However we can also surely contribute in our small ways.
The teachers, the students, the administrators and the alumni can sit together for the good. We do not need a podium for speeches any more. We need to do something substantial and need to do fast. Otherwise BEC will be an extinct glory in the crowd of thousands of technical institutions.
I hope that a proactive teacher and alumnus like SantanuDa will highlight my trivial feelings and intentions to the right audience.
HOPE FOR THE BEST.
*I have added some more people in the CC list. I could not reply the mail to everyone as hotmail has some restriction in the number of recipients.SantanuDa,Can you please forward this to all.
thanks & regards,
arpan mukherjee
Comments by Webmaster for Debu Kar from India on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 18:12 - IP Logged
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 06:49:38 +0530 (IST)
From: debuk@vsnl.net
To: skk@mech.becs.ac.in
Cc: alo@vsnl.net
Subject: BEC(DU) TO SHIBPUR UNIV
Santanu Kumar Karmakar
Dear Santanu,
Thanks for your mail with attachments recd on Aug 04,03 which I have forwarded to a large number of Alumni known to me.The matter is very interesting and informative. However, I am getting feed back that some of the recepients could not open the mail as the size is enormous-- about
one megabyte!! I would suggest that you send me a shorter version which can be easily opened by all.
Thanks & Regards,
Debabrata Kar ( 1958 CE )
Comments by Webmaster for Anindya Ghoshal from United States on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 18:09 - IP Logged
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Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 11:56:00 -0400
From: Anindya Ghoshal
To: skk@mech.becs.ac.in
Subject: Ref: B.E.College (D.U.) to Shibpur University?
Dear Dr. Karmakar:
Thank you for your email to us concerning the change of the status of BECDU. My own personal opinion is that BEC's improvement cannot sustained unless it is converted into a Central Govt. institution. In order to attract higher level of public and private funding, BEC stands to gain much more if converted into a federal institution like IITs or IISc. BEC also needs to broaden its horizon in order to attract higher quality of students and faculty from all over India and abroad. This is not possible if it chooses to remain as just another State University. International collaborative research funding are available from NSF and other sources and being a central institution like IITs and IISc increases its chances of landing successful proposals.
Political interference from State Govt. and political parties had proved to be detrimental to the quality of education and research in BEC. I also strongly oppose the change in name of BEC to Shibpur University. I'm an alumni of BECollege and not of Shibpur University. I already have an University name marked on my undergraduate certificate which reads University of Calcutta. Changing the name of BEC to Shibpur University would entail denial of its 150 years of history.
thank you
Sincerely,
Anindya.
--
Anindya Ghoshal, Ph.D.
Comments by Webmaster for Anupam Ghosal from India on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 18:05 - IP Logged
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 18:45:18 +0530 (IST)
From: ghosalan@vsnl.com
To: BECAA_MAHARASHTRA@yahoogroups.com
Cc: skk@mech.becs.ac.in
Subject: Re:
Jahar-da / Achintya-da / Manas-da,
Please refer the mail below.
Can we, at the first place, prepare a joint petion in
the letter head of BECAA MAHARASHTRA and send it across?
Regards
Anupam Ghosal
Comments by Webmaster for Shyamal Dasgupta from United States on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 18:00 - IP Logged
Dear Dr. Santanu Karmakar,

I am personally deeply impressed to see your effort to open the
communication channel with Alumni of B.E.Cllege.
B.E.College stays at the core of our heart although we live a few
thousands miles away from the college. We , I don't know whether you are
aware of it , are intimately following the recent development at
B.E.College especially in regard to its change of status.
We had formal and informal discussions amongst us as to how to raise
funds for the development of B.E.College .We have decided to set up an
endowment fund here in Washington D,C and so far responses are
encouraging . Our focus is to promote B.E.College towards Center of Excellence.

I shall keep you posted .Stay in touch .

Thanks ,

Shyamal Dasgupta ,
Secretary , B.E.College Alumni Association , Washington Metropolitan
area (USA)
1980 batch .
Comments by Webmaster for Dr. Kajal Gupta from United States on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 17:48 - IP Logged
Dr. Karmaker,
You have my full support in this regard. The gentleman in question is
probably not an Engineer and hence this problem. I suggest that you submit a memo to the Chief minister in this regard, stating your position. I do plan to send him an e-mail if you could
provide me with the address.
This entire episode with the MIC is unreasonable and needs to be
addressed.
Your memo is to the point and perhaps needs to be sent out to 1) Dr. Kalam 2) Chief
minister of WB 3) Dr. Narasimhan
at IISc and others. According to the Scientific Attache we need to get
over the first hurdle where
you have a stumbling block in the MIC. I would also like to send him an
e-mail if you have his address.
Best wishes,
K. K. Gupta
Comments by Kalyan Shankar Bhattacharya from Indonesia on Monday, August 18, 2003 at 05:37 - IP Logged
BE College continues to be an institution per excellence, and its contribution in development of modern India, is an accepted fact in the academia and industry. It will indeed be a justified action to elevate its status to that og IITs.
Comments by Webmaster for Dr. Karmakar from United States on Thursday, August 14, 2003 at 07:03 - IP Logged
Dear Kajalda,
Thank you for your e-mail dt. 11.08.2003. We are very grateful for your active interest in Alma Mater and prompt action thereof. Regarding the steps narrated by you in your e-mail we wish to inform you that the Bengal Engineering College Deemed University Teachers' Association (BECDUTA) already moved the Hon'ble Minister-in-Charge (MIC) of Higher Education, Govt. of West Bengal with the request to take appropriate measure to influence the MHRD, Govt. of India to grant the Bengal Engineering College (A Deemed University) i.e. BECDU the status of an Institute of National Importance through our deputation to him with our memorandum dt.20.06.2003 (vide attached file). Unfortunately, the Hon'ble MIC refused to oblige us. Instead, he insisted that BECDU should be converted to a State-Aided Full Fledged University. It appeared from our discussion with him for 2hrs that neither the authorities of BECDU nor the MIC of Govt. of West Bengal was convinced that with the potential and heritage of BECDU it can be converted into an Institute of National Importance especially in the present regime of the NDA Government in the Centre.
Incidentally, Prof. Satyasadhan Chakraborty, the Hon'ble MIC is the Chairman of the Society of BECDU. It was learnt from him that in the last meeting of the Society dt. 01.04.2003, the MIC as Chairman recommended dissolution of the Society and moved the Department of Higher Education, Govt. of West Bengal, for enactment of a bill in the Legislative Assembly for conversion of BECDU into a state aided full-fledged university.
In view of the above, we are afraid as to how much we can impress on the BECDU authorities to move the proposal suggested in your letter for conversion of BECDU into an Institute of National Importance. Still then we will be putting our best efforts in spite of resistance from the authority.
It was, therefore, felt imperative to impress on the mighty and influential alumni like you to exert pressure on the stalwarts in the Central Ministry and the State Ministry for conversion of our institute into an Institute of National Importance. It is germane to mention here that recently Regional Engineering College, Durgapur has been converted to a National Institute of Technology under the Central Government in spite of stiff resistance from the State Government.
Regards,
Santanu karmakar
Comments by Webmaster for Dr. Kajal Gupta from United States on Monday, August 11, 2003 at 10:20 - IP Logged
The following message was received from Dr. Kajal Gupta.
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Hi All!
I had a detailed discussion with Dr. K. K. Dwivedi, the Scientific Attache at the Indian Embassy at Washington DC, this morning, regarding our venture into transforming BEC Sibpur into IIT, Sibpur. He was entirely receptive to the idea and mentioned the current transformation of Roorkee into an IIT. He also reminded me of the rules and procedures to achieve the goal and suggested the following, before I write to Dr. Kalam. The steps are as follows;
1) BEC management/ governing body passes a official resolution to affirm their desire for the change ( he mentioned that some Roorkee ex-students, being nostalgic about the traditional name objected to that and this might also happen in our case, but we have to think of the future and simply can not live in the past).
2) BEC approaches the AICTE, which is a part of MHRD having final authority in the matter, for appropriate acreditation.
3) BEC submits the proposal to MHRD for consideration of subsequent approval of the Indian Parliament to pass an act to implement the change.
4) The President of India finally signs it into a law.
I am not sure where you are regarding the four items as above and would like to be informed. Dr. Dwivedi also mentioned that financial status of the school will be an issue and he felt that the recent UN grant to BEC will be a positive score for the consideration.
Best wishes,
Kajal K. Gupta, 56 CE
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