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Mission: IIT, Shibpur - Volume 3

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BESU Teacher's Association staged sit-in demostration in front of VC's office and issued a press release on March 13, 2006. A series of newspaper articles were published following the press release and they are listed here. GAA also circulated a message about BESUTA's position to nearly 3500 alumni via email on March 14, 2006.

 

Team BESU Update on Feb 24, Midnight, IST - Only available to registered alumni to the "BECollege" group! Contact Alumni web team or alumni office to receive this update via email.

 

Alumni Web Team and GAABESU provided the above update based on the following confusing news articles.

 

 

The Statesman, Feb 23 2006

IIT status for Besu and JU likely

Statesman News Service
KOLKATA, Feb. 22. — Bengal Engineering and Science University and Jadavpur University could soon be given IIT status. The Ministry of Human Resource Development has invited vice-chancellors of both universities to discuss upgrading the universities to the status of IIT or institute of national importance tomorrow.
The vice-chancellor of Besu, Prof N R Banerjea, has already left for Delhi while pro-vice chancellor of Jadavpur University, Prof. S Sanyal, and executive council member, Prof. Partha Pratim Biswas, will leave tomorrow. The meeting with MHRD has been scheduled at 3 p.m. tomorrow. Higher education secretary, Mr Jawhar Sircar has also been invited to the meet. Though the letter issued to the VCs does not give any clear indication on the points to be discussed, government sources say the discussion might be based on upgrade procedures. The Central government is expected to announce the names of the six institutes that are to be upgraded to IIT status and what grant they will be awarded. The process is an aftermath of the report that was submitted by an expert team of MHRD that visited the institutes in the first week of December. The invitation extended by the ministry has raised a wave of excitement in the Shibpur and Jadavpur campuses. A series of meetings and discussions have ensued. Prof Banerjea said the university has prepared its own agenda and ideas concerning the best way of implementing the upgrading process. The global alumni association of Besu has submitted a letter to the chief minister appealing to him to provide help in upgrading the institute to the status of IIT or institute of national importance.
Prof. Biswas said it is a decision between the government and MHRD. “We are just a third party”, said Prof Biswas. It will be the first time an announcement will be made on this issue, he added.

The Times of India Article

State to join talks for BE’s IIT status
TIMES NEWS NETWORK
Kolkata: For the first time, the Union human resources development ministry (MHRD) has taken the state government into confidence regarding the upgradation of Bengal Engineering and Science University and Jadavpur University to IIT or INI (Institute of National Importance).
A letter from the MHRD has invited state higher education secretary Jawhar Sircar and the two vicechancellors to discuss the upgradation issue on February 23.
In the past, MHRD used to interact only with the two universities, and not the state government, which runs the varsities and also gives permission for upgradation.
“I have submitted the invitation to higher education minister Satyasadhan Chakraborty and sought his permission to attend the meeting. I will attend it if the state government permits me,” said Sircar.
MHRD has convened a meeting on February 23 to discuss the upgradation of six shortlisted institutions of higher education. Besu vice-chancellor N R Banerjea, pro-VC S Sanyal of JU and its executive council member Partha Pratim Biswas are scheduled to attend it.
“MHRD will inform the state about the manner in which upgradation can be brought about only after this meeting,” said Biswas.
“The letter from MHRD says that a discussion on the IIT/INI status has been scheduled on the basis of a report submitted by experts,” Banerjea said.
Meanwhile, Besu alumni have written to chief minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee and requested him to elevate the varsity to IIT or INI, for which it had been shortlisted last year by the Centre.
“You have correctly identified the importance of good education in making West Bengal an attractive place for knowledge-based industry and thereby bring about its economic revival. And, Besu’s upgradation will be crucial to that,” the letter said.
“To set up knowledge-based industries, skilled technical personnel will be needed and they can be supplied by IITs. Top-tier companies tend to relocate to places with top-tier schools. A second IIT will meet that need,” the missive claimed.
“At present, top students leave the state on getting admissions to IITs/IISc/BITs. With a second IIT in the state, this brain drain will stop, as top companies will hire them for a premium. This will boost their spending power as well as increase economic activity in the state,” the letter added.
The missive also drew the CM’s attention to the fact that the new status will fetch Besu Rs 100 crore extra every year, which gets Rs 16 crore annually from the state government. Now, the university will get a one-time payment of Rs 900 crore and JU Rs 300 crore.

Posted on February 21, 2006

 

Mission: IIT, Shibpur - An appeal from "Team BESU" to WBCM.


Dated: February 21, 2006

 

Shri Buddhadeb Bhattacharya

Hon'ble Chief Minister of West Bengal

Govt. of West Bengal,

Writers' Buildings,

Kolkata - 700001, India

 

 

Re:  Appeal to accept MHRD proposal for conversion of BESUS to an IIT/INI

 

Dear Sri Bhattacharya:

 

India is moving towards the knowledge economy together with the developed world.   In this economic environment, knowledge rather than physical resources is main driver of economic growth.  The contribution of knowledge-based industries to total value added has steadily increased in the OECD countries.  The Economist reports, “Best companies are now devoting at least a third of their investment to knowledge-intensive intangibles such as R&D, licensing and marketing.  Universities are among the most important engines of the knowledge economy. Not only do they produce the brain workers who man it, they also provide much of its backbone, from laboratories to libraries to computer networks.”

 

With that in mind, we, the alumni/alumnae, students, faculty, staff, administrators and well-wishers of Bengal Engineering & Science University (erstwhile BEC/BECDU), welcomed your recent initiatives to set up more national institutes in West Bengal and to allow top colleges to gain more autonomy so that these institutes become true center of excellence and become the engines of new economy in West Bengal. It is very heartening to note that the WB Government under your able leadership has convinced the Ambani Group to set up an Institute of Information and Communication Technology in West Bengal. The conversion of BESUS to an IIT or equivalent will complement the efforts you have already initiated in the field of education.  Conversion of BESUS to a world-class educational institute that it once was will strengthen the core competence of West Bengal in the technology area. 

 

It is our understanding that MHRD’s expert committee on visiting the campus on 2nd of December 2005 has spoken highly of BESUS as a candidate for conversion to IIT. MHRD has invited VC, BESUS to discuss the conversion process on 23rd. of February 2006.  The Central Government is expected to announce the name of the schools to be upgraded to IIT and how much grant each school will get to improve its infrastructure.   However, this conversion will only be possible if the Government of West Bengal Government agrees to MHRD’s proposal.

 

We are sure that you are aware why the conversion of BESUS to an IIT is so very important for our State.  We nevertheless would like to recap those rationales below in our own way and the benefits from this upgradation to the state will be quite obvious from those.

 

  1. The financial and other support that it will receive to upgrade to an IIT (somewhere between Rs. 300.00 Cr. and Rs. 900.00 Cr.) will be very essential for the development of infrastructure, laboratories and testing facilities.  Improved facilities will attract a lot of talent, both as faculty and as students, from within the state as well as outside.
  2. Being within the fold of a group of competent IITs of very high standard will bring in a sense of competition which is so very essential in building a culture of excellence. This will foster research and development that in turn will be beneficial to the industries at large.
  3. With a center of excellence that is world class and has the support of the Central Government, West Bengal will be able to attract industries from within India and abroad for setting up their shops. Knowing fully well that there would not be any dearth of talents to operate the businesses would be a strong incentive for the industries to move to West Bengal.
  4. As the state is showing all the signs of being a prime FDI destination, there would be requirement of technical personnel for those future industries that the state will be able to fill with the sons of the soil. As the demand for technocrats would very definitely rise with development, having more than one IIT will indeed be a very strong point for the State when in competition with others.
  5. The investment (at least Rs. 100.00 Cr./yr) that the Central Government will make will free up the resources of West Bengal (about Rs. 16 Cr./yr). The money, thus saved, could be diverted to other state supported engineering schools for upgrading their infrastructure, resulting in better facilities, and attracting better students. 
  6. The students of West Bengal will have another reputed organization to turn to before deciding to go out of the state if they do. Likewise, graduates of the institute will have one additional prospective destination for a faculty position before opting to go out.
  7. Sharing the brand name of IIT, the graduates of the institute will be able to bring new business and employment to the state as entrepreneurs.
  8. Once the State has a number of premier institutes it could attract other institutes from both the public and the private sector, such as medical and nuclear sciences, which is essential for overall development as science and technology has become more and more multi-disciplinary in nature.
  9. IITs with greater financial strength provide incubation facilities of high-tech ventures. As a result, the graduating students from IITs are not only working for reputable corporations but they are also creating jobs with high income potential through such ventures. They, thus become engines of economic development for the state.
  10. BESUS has an unparallel location advantage by being close to the developed infrastructure of Calcutta and Howrah with a large developed residential campus. However, BESUS has not been able to utilize this fully. This advantage can be properly exploited by the state if it becomes a national institution.  

 

 

Considering those facts, we would, therefore, urge you to make a decision in favor of conversion of BESUS to an IIT, as we are sure it will turn out to be one of historical importance which Bengalis will remember with pride in days and years to come. In addition, as BESUS will be celebrating 150th anniversary next year, the upgradation will be the proper way to honor the contributions of our college in the development of pre- as well as post-independent India. West Bengal will be in a unique position to have three top-tier engineering schools (Shibpur, Kharagpur and Jadavpur) of India. We believe, as Chief Minister who is trying to bring economic prosperity to the people of West Bengal and develop West Bengal into a top-tier state in the 21st century, you will agree to accept MHRD’s recommendations to convert BESUS to an IIT.  We thank you for your time and look forward for a positive response.

 

Best regards,

 

Students, Faculty,  Alumni and Well Wishers of BESU

 

 

The Undersigned or http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?besus for complete

on-line signatures list

 

CC:

  • Shri Gopalkrishna Gandhi, Chancellor, BESU and Hon'ble Governor of West Bengal
  • Prof. Satyasadhan Chakraborty, Hon'ble Minister-In-Charge, Dept of Higher Education, West Bengal Secretary
  • Shri Jawahar Sircar, IAS, Dept of Higher Education, West Bengal Secretary
  • Dr. N R Banerjea, VC, BESU
  • Prof. Santanu Kr. Karmakar, Secretary, Global Alumni Association of BESU (GAABESU)
  • Prof. Manas Hira, Secretary, BESU Teacher's Association
  • Correspondents of print and electronic media
  • All Members of BESU Alumni

Encl:

 

Prepared by the following persons and distributed by BESU Alumni Web Team, a group of alumni volunteers representing Asia, Europe and North America.

 

Dr. Debasish Ghosh, Professor and Dean of Faculty of Engg , Arch.and TRP

Dr. Biswanath Datta, Professor and Dean, RCIII

Prof. Anjan Kr. Ghosh, Dean of Students

Prof. Manas Sanyal, Head, HRM

Dr. Dipak Sengupta, Professor, Dept. of Applied Mechanics

Mr. Tarun Basu, GAABESU Web Team Volunteer

Dr. Swapan Saha, GAABESU Web Team Volunteer

Mr. Sudhangshu Sekhar Chakraborty, MD, CES

Mr. Amitabha Ghoshal, President, GAABESU & Chairman, Stup Consultants

Mr. Santanu Chatterjee, Working President, GAABESU & ED, CESC Ltd.

Dr. Santanu Kr Karmakar, Secretary, GAABESU & Head, Mechanical Engineering

Dr. Nilratan Bandyopadhyay, President, BESU Teachers’ Association

Prof. Manas Hira, Secretary, BESU Teachers’ Association

Dr. Amitava Roy, Executive Committee Member, BESU Teachers’ Association

 

 

 

 

(Manas Hira)                                                      ( Santanu Kumar Karmakar)

Secretary                                                                      Hony.Secretary

BESU Teachers’ Association                                       Global Alumni Association  of BESU 

 

 

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Comments by Readers
Comments by Souvik Karak from Kuwait on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 at 23:36 - IP Logged
HindustanTimes.com » Only in HT » Story
More IIT cousins, more seats
Chetan Chauhan
New Delhi, May 25, 2006
Chetan Chauhan
New Delhi, May 25, 2006
The HRD ministry plans to introduce parallel IITs, called the Indian Institute of Engineering Science and Technology (IIEST). Ministry sources said the government has identified five institutes for branding them as IIESTs.
They are, the Bengal Engineering and Science University, Institute of Technology, Beneras Hindu University, Cochin University of Science and Technology, Andhra University, College of Engineering and Osmania University College of Engineering and University College of Techonology.
These state institutes will be given the grade of ‘institutes of national importance’ and brought under the ambit of the Joint Entrance Examination (JEE).
“They will offer a mix of science and technology education with emphasis on research,” an official explained.
To be run on the lines of the IITs, the IIESTs will be constituted as institutes of national importance through an Act of Parliament. Like IITs, the admission to new institutes will be on all an India basis and probably through a joint entrance examintion.
Comments by Pradip Sarkar from India on Friday, May 05, 2006 at 06:57 - IP Logged
Few National Magazines (such as India Today, Frontline) had published special articles when Roorkee University reached 150th years two years back. Is it possible for us to get some article published on BESU in any of these Magazines? If Sachin Tendulkar, Sourav Ganguly can be the cover storey several times for 10 years of their service why can't BESU be atleast once after 150 years of its service?
Pradip, 99CE
Comments by Debmalya Banerjee from India on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 at 05:08 - IP Logged
Our beloved BESUS, the Mother of the hitherto achieved technological potential of the country,
is soon going to celebrate a glorious 150th anniversary. I have a few thoughts to share with
you all. Please lend me your attention.
As far as I know, in 2003 the BESUS fraternity unanimously resolved to save the institute from the
painful but obvious decadence arising out of the conflict between the mounting aspirations of a
a steadily growing research workforce and paucity of funding provided by the State. Such realisation
led to the proposal to upgrade the institute to the status of an Institute of National Importance.
The same was formed and forwarded to the MHRD by the then Vice- Chancellor. In the meantime, coincidentally, the Vajpayee Govt.
mooted the S.K. Joshi Commission to consider the possibility of creating more IITs out of
traditionally good Engineering Institutes. The incidents thereafter are too well known, the
culmination being BESU topping the list of 7 identified Institutes for the IIT/INI upgrade.
However, the exercise suddenly started getting directionless with the political variables
following their own equations. Given that 150 year dateline is fast approaching, perhaps all
of us will agree that "Achieving the IIT/INI status" should be the sole focus of all our
activities concerning the celefration of 150th anniversary.
We may recall that the proposal sent to the MHRD in 2003 by the then VC, Prof. A. Sengupta, has not
yet been responded to. Subsequetly, the BEC/BESU fraternity at all levels - alumnus (BECAA/GAABESUS),
Faculty Members (BECDUTA/BESUTA), Students, staff and all well wishers expressed an exemplary
solidarity in favour of the conviction that BESUS rightfully deserves this IIT/INI status.
With this focus serving as our background, the glory of the Institute shall only be acknowledged,
maintained, honoured and heightened by achieving the deserved IIT/INI status - with our
strength, backed up by our solidarity, fuelled by our pride and most importantly justified by our
excellent academic quality and unfailing service to the nation for long 150 years. We shold stop
looking at the upgrade as an opportunity that may be offered to us if only some political leaders
are taken into confidence. We should consider it as our right and as the logical culmination
of the service rendered to the internal resource generation process of this Great Nation. We
should be convinced that if this need of the Institute is not respected, the will of those who are dedicated to nation
building will be once more ignored. This we shall not allow to happen. We need a little
modification in the way we are looking at the issue.
Thus we need to focus all our power into the "tip of the arrow" and not blunt it by only
taking up cosmetic programmes like - Commemorative construction of big gates, publication and distribution
of commemorative volumes, holding a few good lectures followed by better lunch packs, issuing nice looking
blazers and badges. Such "hackneyed" methods are not for an Institute which has (i) an urge for international
recognition (ii) a pride for its past and (ii) an acceptance amongst the members of the national
and international technical fraternity. These modes of celebration can only supplement the
"attaiment of the IIT/INI" status and not replace it.
My fear is that such lackadaisical programmes of "cosmetic commemoration" may in future, be held
responsible for extinction of the long acquired glory of BESUS before the celebration of the 200 th
anniversary. Let us unite at all levels and stnd together firmly with a resolution that either the
"coveted status shall be won" or we shall observe dark and silence on November 24, 2006.
Comments by Prabal Choudhury 71 Electrical from Canada on Thursday, April 27, 2006 at 10:15 - IP Logged
Thanks. Well Done.
Comments by A web team member from United States on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 at 19:04 - IP Logged
Done!
Comments by Prabal Choudhury 71 Electrical from Canada on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 at 14:11 - IP Logged
While waiting for IIT/ INI conversion, why not we cash on our recent achievement as One of the Top Ten Institutes designated by India Today, like BIT Mesra. BIT is showing it in their official website continuously, whereas we have never tried to give it the required publicity. During my recent visit to India, I found very few people know it even in West Bengal. Can we flash it in our website ?
Comments by Souvik Karak from Kuwait on Monday, April 24, 2006 at 05:26 - IP Logged
I think education at BEC is of world standard.
IIT status it is must for the World to Recognise. This will also help students getting access to world class education facilities. Electrical 1998.
Comments by Saswata Misra, '94 CST from Bouvet Island on Monday, April 17, 2006 at 02:37 - IP Logged
With Singh and Singh (Arjun and Manmohan) deciding to play with the future of the country, terms like potential and excellence have lost their relevance in this (sick) country!
Comments by well wisher from Canada on Saturday, April 15, 2006 at 15:47 - IP Logged
Should we take this as end of the mission. CG and WG is playing games with the future of technical education and particularly with the future potential of institutes like BESU and ITBHU as they are sincerely striving for conversion to IITs. other institutes in the list may not be fit or very serious about it, as this may challenge their existing systems and procedures. students and faculty who are used to very liberal environment with 10-30 AM to 4-30 PM schedule may find it very difficult to change over to IIT's strict discipline oriented system. But for BESU conversion to IIT/INI is a must to achieve excellence.
Comments by Gunanmoy Ghosh from India on Friday, April 14, 2006 at 01:58 - IP Logged
HRD won’t build new IITs
Vineeta Pandey
Thursday, April 13, 2006 00:44 IST


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NEW DELHI: In another setback to technical education aspirants, the government has decided against setting up any new Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) campuses in the country in the near future.
The Human Resource and Development (HRD) Ministry has shelved the idea of creating seven more IITs as proposed by the NDA government. Instead, the HRD has decided only to help the short-listed engineering institutes to upgrade themselves by providing financial assistance of Rs42 crore each.
HRD minister Arjun Singh had on an earlier occasion said the government has no money to build more IITs and IIMs.
“However, we have decided to give them an assistance of Rs42 crore each to gradually upgrade them to the levels of IITs,” said a senior official of HRD ministry.
The message was conveyed to the institutes last week. While a sum of Rs42 crore will be given five of them through the University Grants Commission, BHU and AMU each will receive a direct grant from HRD as they are part of the Central Universities Scheme.
The proposal to create more IITs started in 2003 when the NDA government had planned to convert seven engineering institutes to IITs. These institutes were: Institute of Technology (ITI) Banaras Hindu University, Varanasi; University College of Engineering combined with University College of Technology, Osmania University, Hyderabad; Bengal Engineering College, Howrah; Engineering and Technology departments of Jadavpur University and Zakir Hussain College of Engineering and Technology, AMU Aligarh; Andhra University College of Engineering in Visakhapatnam and Cochin University of Science and Technology. These institutes were short-listed by the SK Joshi Committee.
Another three-member technical committee, headed by Professor M Ananta Krishnan of Madras Institute of Development Studies, was also created to evaluate the IIT-status hopefuls. Despite their recommendations, the HRD ministry is not in favour of directly converting these institutes into IIT campuses.
Comments by Chatterjee from India on Friday, April 07, 2006 at 01:16 - IP Logged
Hindu-
Additional allocation for 7 engineering institutions
Special Correspondent
Turning them into IITs will result in recurring expenditure for the Centre
NEW DELHI: The seven engineering institutions — shortlisted by the S.K. Joshi committee for upgradation to Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) level — will have to settle for additional allocation instead. Rewriting the National Democratic Alliance (NDA) proposal to upgrade these institutions, the current dispensation at the Human Resource Development (HRD) Ministry has decided to provide them special financial assistance to improve themselves.
A sum of Rs. 42 crores has been set aside by the Ministry for five of the seven institutions, as the remaining two — Institute of Technology in Banaras Hindu University (BHU) and Zakir Hussain College of Engineering and Technology in Aligarh Muslim University (AMU) — are already part of the Central university system and get direct aid from the Centre. The special allocation to the other five institutions will be routed through the University Grants Commission.
The HRD Ministry recently took a decision to this effect after studying the report of the three-member technical committee set up in 2005 to do a "reality check" on the seven "IIT status" hopefuls. Headed by Madras Institute of Development Studies chairman M. Ananda Krishnan, the committee examined the vision documents submitted by the institutes.
The five institutes that will share the additional allocation are University College of Engineering combined with University College of Technology, Osmania University; Bengal Engineering (B.E.) College, Shibpur; Jadavpur University's engineering and technology departments; Andhra University College of Engineering; and Cochin University of Science and Technology.
Recurring expenditure
Since turning them into IITs will result in recurring expenditure for the Centre, the Ministry has opted for the more non-committal additional funding option. Though officials mention the possibility of carrying on with such additional funding for the five institutions in the 11th Five Year Plan, as of now it is a commitment for this fiscal only.
Another factor that went against the NDA proposal was the "autonomy issue" since five of them do not fall within the purview of the Centre. While B.E. College is a deemed university, Cochin University of Science and Technology is a State university dedicated entirely to technical education and the remaining three are part of State universities.
Accepting the view taken by the Ananda Krishnan Committee that upgradation hinges on autonomy — regarded as a key factor behind the success of the IITs — the Ministry proposes to make the seven institutions autonomous.
Comments by Arvind Singh IT-BHU from India on Monday, April 03, 2006 at 13:40 - IP Logged
To Yogesh Sir,
Thanx for ur update sir...... I request that u kindly post this report of yours on rediff.com, because that will in general be very useful for others as well i....
I feel sorry if my earlier comment was offensive to other colleges, but sir this has only come out of a long neglect to some great institutes of this country by the governments and their politics that they let in . Still i take your advise in full dignity .
Arvind Singh
B.Tech 4th yr
IT-BHU
Comments by Yogesh Upadhyaya from United States on Monday, April 03, 2006 at 08:54 - IP Logged
Dear All:
This has reference to comments made by Swapan, Arvind, Molay and others:
1)Telegraph and Times of India provide authentic news direct from the sources, most of the time. However, there is error in the report that Rs. 42 crores will be distributed among 5 state-run colleges. According to meeting with MHRD on Feb. 23, each college will receive about Rs. 35-40 crores, provided it is not used for land purchase.
2)BEC should push for IIT-JEE, as half the battle will be won by that. It will also help students securing plum jobs and getting admissions into post-graduate studies such as IIMs. To join the exclusive club of IIT-JEE, permission from IIT board will be needed, which should not be a problem. Also, a consent will be needed from the state govt., as it will replace WB-JEE. Compared to last year when 1.98 lakh candidates appeared for 4,935 seats, this year 3.00 lakh appeared for an estimated 6,000 seats for IITs and other participating colleges for IIT-JEE.
3)As per report submitted on Feb. 13 by 3-member HRD panel, ITBHU was ranked as #1 overall, followed by BEC at #2. Hence govt. can not declare other colleges as IITs without declaring BEC an IIT. While Kerala and Andhra govts. have agreed for all conditions, including autonomy, WB govt. is undecided.
4)Govt. had promised to decide about participation of colleges in national exams by this academic year, but no announcement is made yet. While counselling for IIT-JEE is in mid-May and AIEEE is in end-May, WB-JEE exam is postponed to end May due to elections.
5)General assembly elections for five states (West Bengal, Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Assam and Pondicherry) are announced and will be over by May 8. As per Election commissions Model Code of Conduct, govt. can not announce anything which influence the election in those states. The Parliament will convene again for supplementary budget discussion during May 10-23, where mega projects for funding higher education will be announced. If everything goes well, govt. may announce something about IITs or participation in national level exams by these colleges.
6)I request everyone to refrain from badmouthing other colleges. All colleges are great in the eyes of their students/alumni/faculty. Despite their shortcomings, these seven colleges are selected (apart from politics) because they have served the region and the nation by providing necessary education to thousands of students at the affordable price tag.
With regards,
Yogesh K. Upadhyaya
Chemical 1977, IT-BHU
News Jersey, USA.
Comments by Molay from India on Monday, April 03, 2006 at 03:27 - IP Logged
The Telegraphs agenda is a diffcult one to figure out. After running a scathing article a while back suggesting BESU is unfit for IIT status they run one suggesting exactly the opposite thing. Are they for us or against us?
I agrre with Arvind Singh in that it is absolutley true that we have to switch to IIT JEE to allow proper comparison of who is going to IIT and which ranks want to come here.
Regarding acquiring another 200 acres of land to expand the campus would it not be better to find all the land in Shibpur rather than setting it up in West Howrah. Shibpur is part of this institute, so much so that we are colloquially known as "Shibpur Eningeering College" locally in Bengal. I think we are already acquiring 100 acres of land on 2 sites in Shibpur, we should look to find the remaining 100 acres here aswell. It will reduce costs and strengthen the brand value of the institute. Presumably it is not that difficult to find land in Shibpur either as the land being acquires was found quite quickly.
The article mentions the 50 crore we have requested currently from the MHRD , I am not sure what is happening with this money?
Comments by Arvind Singh IT-BHU from India on Monday, April 03, 2006 at 00:09 - IP Logged
hey i can't understand thatw hy these press elements don't publish the rock bottom fact....the fact is as of now the upgradation to IIT status is witheld......may be it could be given after 4-5 yrs, based on the performance of the institutes on the basis of the vision document and the extra money provided by centre......
But who knows which govt will be in power after 5 yrs.....and whether Left parties will be of any significance at that time......Conversion to IIT is a political affair.........
How can one compare AMU with IT-BHU... but then it is there...... can understand the case of BEC but a college like JU, it's miserable......and ya have u people ever herd of CUSAT, Osmannia etc....and bla bla bla prior to the report.
1.Because of Arjun Singh's secularism AMU is there
2. Left parties in Kerala with congress ----so CUSAT.
3. Osmannia and AU, oh my god----it's pity that i am born in india.
4. JU----- to appease left
5. IT-BHU..... how did it manage????? Ok OK some people still have faith in quality.......... It's ridiculus that IT-BHU (and to some extent BEC also) is categorized along with these stupid worthless instt.
6. BEC--- ok
But dear friends at BEC u must remember one thing 70-80% of IT-BHU students could have been a student of ant IIT if they havd selected relatively low Branch at the time of coulselling ( including myself).......
So if BEC has really to influencestudents at IIT ( & IT-BHU) that it is a really competant candidate for IIT then it must switch over to IIT-JEE......... now don't justify that WB-JEE is also a national exam. Plz don't consider it as offensive....... y real good wishs r and have always been with this instt... but but but quality matters........ still there is quite differece in quality of students at IITs(along with IT-BHU) as compared to BEC..........
remember selection to JEE, IAS, IIM r a matter of pride and achievemnt in this counrty.....so if a college tends to achive the equality of IIT bypassing these benchmarks.....then dear friends u will hardly manage repect........
So plz try to influnce ur authorities that JEE (I mean IIT_jee) is a real must......
Just because Roorki or It-BHU or BEC are very old , it does not mean that they r automatically selected for IIT..... Very often old thing are rotten.... So first the quality must be maintained...... Unless and untill BEC attains a national character byy admittins students via IIT-JEE pool and recruting techaers through ALL INDIA.....it does not make sense......

Sorry frnds if i sound offensive ,,,, but this is a advise of friend from IT-BHU
Comments by Ajoy Ghosh from India on Sunday, April 02, 2006 at 21:22 - IP Logged
Chora na shune dharm-er kahini !
It will be foolhardy to believe any body can cajole the State Government(s) to relinquish their holds on the selected institutes, hitherto being run by them ....... least of all the tribes of Anandabazar Patrika
And why should they, after all !
If I had a vintage Rolls Royce, inherited from my Roy Bahadur Great Grand father who got it as a present from the Laat-sahib, which I maintained at the best of my (in)ability, or may be inefficiency, for the sole purpse of getting the pleasure of being a vintage car owner and for the use of my family-members; and,tomorrow, you want to take the car away from me to be spruced up and maintained at your cost for the use of all who deserve to use such a grand car
---- what do I, and my family, stand to gain by that ?
Isn't it in the fairness of things that you pay me enough for me to buy atleast a new Ford ?
If the MHRD is really keen enough to upgrade these institutes, they should be ready to pay up enough to upgrade other State-run engineering institutes to this level !
Only such a deal can make it happen.
Comments by Swapan Saha from United States on Sunday, April 02, 2006 at 17:06 - IP Logged
I think The Telegraph and The Times of India are doing better job in covering IIT/INI issues than other printed media. March 24 2006 cover story in The Telegraph seems to be a very extensive article.
Thanks,
Swapan Saha
P.S. This is my personal opinion and is not endorsed by any chapter or any group global or local!
Comments by Chatterjee from India on Saturday, April 01, 2006 at 03:03 - IP Logged
At least the Telegraph is trying to cojole and persuade the WB givernemnt to be more pro active on the conversion issue, with all of their articles trying to highlight the apathy of the state government hopefully to encourage some action. What is disappointing is that the interim money to be provided by the MHRD is only 42 crore to be shared amongst five institutes including BESU.That will not really go ver far and we should ask for more.
Comments by Prabal Choudhury 71 electrical from Canada on Friday, March 31, 2006 at 15:27 - IP Logged
Has this news published by Telegraph any confirmed source ? Or this is just another unconfirmed confusing news as generally published by telegraph/ anandabazar group from time to time. how is it possible for UGC to influence WBG when GOI education minister and prime minister can not do it. they should have rather referred it to Sonia Gandhi instead. this is probably another eyewash to delay and ultimately throw the commission's recommendation into dust bin of history.
Comments by Molay Halder from India on Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 14:32 - IP Logged
Telegraph-
Centre to sugarcoat IIT drive
MONOBINA GUPTA
New Delhi, March 30: The Centre will ask the University Grants Commission (UGC) to persuade state governments, including that in Bengal, to loosen their grip on the institutes shortlisted for IIT status.
The subtle shift in strategy — so far the human resource development ministry has been interacting with the states — is aimed at ensuring that the exercise does not get entangled in charges of central interference on the sensitive issue of autonomy.
From the east, Jadavpur University’s faculty of engineering and technology and the Bengal Engineering and Science University, Shibpur, are among the seven selected nationwide for the coveted tag.
Some state governments, including the Left Front administration in Bengal, have been reluctant to give up control to attain the coveted IIT tag.
The Centre has also cleared Rs 42 crore as initial expenses for the upgradation, which will be shared among five institutes. Besides the two from the east, the five include the University of Science and Technology in Kochi, Andhra University’s College of Engineering and Osmania University’s College of Technology.
The remaining two of the seven — Benares Hindu University’s Institute of Technology and Aligarh Muslim University’s engineering department — are under the charge of the Centre and they will be given separate funds.
A committee that had gone into the issue has said elevation hinges on autonomy. The Centre believes that one of the key factors behind the success of IITs is their freedom to function without any interference from the government.
The human resource development ministry wants the seven institutions to follow the same path. They should be allowed to draw up their curriculum, choose faculty members and have a free hand over administrative functioning.
The ministry, however, is treading with caution as it does not want to be perceived by the states as undercutting their authority. Instead of “dictating” terms, the ministry has decided to issue an advisory to the UGC, asking it to “coax and persuade” the states to give up their hold. The UGC will play the role of a “guide” and advise the state governments how to proceed on the autonomy issue.
In November 2003, Murli Manohar Joshi, the then HRD minister, set up the committee to draw up a blueprint for upgrading regional technical institutions so that more students will have access to quality professional education. At present, there are seven IITs.
Setting up more IITs involves a lot of money — according to one estimate, as much as Rs 2,000 crore is required for one such institute. The Centre, therefore, has settled for the next best option: upgrade the institutions which have the infrastructure and the capacity.
Comments by Webmaster from United States on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 13:34 - IP Logged
Gagandeep,
This is the web site of alumni (ex-students) of BESU and not of the University. Please check out http://www.becs.ac.in for admission requirements and process.
You can also get some information WBJEE and selection process at http://www.csc-et.org.
Best wishes,
GAABESU web Team
Comments by gagandeep from India on Sunday, March 26, 2006 at 09:40 - IP Logged
i wanted to admission in ur collegeg.gave me info of ur college like1.fee structure 2.procedure etc
Comments by Molay from India on Thursday, March 16, 2006 at 03:57 - IP Logged
“We will ask for Rs 50 crores from MHRD to open these departments. We have worked out the details of our requirements and will discuss them with MHRD in Delhi on March 10,” said N R Banerjea, Besu vice-chancellor.~Telegraph
The VC has visited Delhi on March 10th to request funds for new departments in BESU with the MHRD.Does anyone have information on this? Is there any indication of how this meeting went? Did we receive the 50 crore funding for setting up these departments?
Comments by Swapan Saha from United States on Thursday, March 16, 2006 at 00:00 - IP Logged
Ajoyda,
It is up to you whether you join GAA or nor, but we already expressed our position that we need some sort of organization to sustain this initiative as occasional comments or emails do not help to manage any project like this for long term. You might be correct about your general observation but you should already observe this site is being used to bring all well wishers of BESUS together for last 3+ years for IIT/INI initiative. We raised more than US$ 100,000.00 to run the VLSI Lab, Alumni Scholarship (only USA and Canada part) and Alumni Seminar Project. We raised more than US$ 80,000 in last 6 years to save many alumni in emergency. So, our history does not support so much pessimism. In case you follow all the messages we posted to this site and 100s of messages to we distributed to all alumni, alumni are working very hard for this historic initiative for last 3+ years.
As in financial market, it says past performance does not guarantee any future performance; we need to be careful whom we "elect" to GAA so that it does not reach a state which you projected. So, please join GAA and lead from the front line. Otherwise, we will waste bandwidth to exchange this endless discussion. Hence, this is my last message with an appeal to join GAA.
If you have any concern, please contact alumni office or just attend any weekly meeting as it is open to all GAA members and potential members.
Thanks,
Swapan Saha, 88EE
Comments by Ajoy Ghosh from India on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 23:11 - IP Logged
Dear Swapan,
As regards your oft-repeated call to join GAA, let me be very honest with you and I am sure many other alumni will be sharing my view :
It has been my experience so many times in the past that any association (or conglomeration) of Indians, start with a very noble cause, but degenerate fast as days pass by. Be it the elected Students' Union formation in B E College in 1977 (after the emergency days of selection),a Probasi Bengali Association abroad or a Para Club in Kolkata, it all starts with the support of the honest multitude but is ultimately hyjacked by a coterie who run the show for their (or their mentor's) convenience showing scant regards for the opinion of the majority.Unwillingly, in most cases, the members become party to the activities of the coterie who, somehow, are able to manage the number game of "Democracy". Dissociating oneself is also not always possible as, in B E College, we used to say " Ek baar khatay naam lekhale-i, baas ! hoye gelo !.... ".You are then branded. It's like, on the day of Holi, if you have the colour showing on you, it tells about your particiation, not about your willingness or reluctance to do so.
Please don't take it hard, I am not suggesting GAA will also degenerate but what I am trying to say is that so many of us must be apprehensive.
I am sure, member of not, any well-meant move by GAA will definitely be supported by the majority of Alumni, even if silently.My question is, what then is preventing GAA to make the move, even if not everybody is its member ?
Ajoy Ghosh
1980 Mech. Engg.
Comments by Saswata Misra, '94 CST from Neutral Zone on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 22:48 - IP Logged
I agree that my comment on 'Mission Impossible' spun the discussion to a different direction. However the fact remains that BESU has a long way to go before aspiring to be an IIT. The 'speculation' that BESU was ranked # 1 by the review team has no basis and cannot be used to drum up support for the cause. Usually 3 basic parameters determine an institute:
1. Student: Unless the WB Govt. agrees to induct students through IIT-JEE, I do not see any reason for anyone to agree for the upgradation. Roorkee had a recognised national level test and IT-BHU admission is through JEE.
2. Faculty: The quality of faculty is a concern. There is no diversity or motivation to excel. Personally I would like to see a panel conduct a review of the achievement of each faculty on a point scale. Those who do not make the mark should be moved to 50+ other engg. colleges in WB and fresh onces inducted from across the country. Now that is an utopia...
3. Infrastructure: This is the strong point. Physical infra is very good and proximity to a big city is a definite plus. Though the labs need improvement, but that can come with additional grants in a short time once the IIT status is accorded.
Thnx and keep writing!
Comments by Piyali Dey from United States on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 15:05 - IP Logged
I kind of concur with Susobhan Ghosh that I was initially puzzled, but, now I AM HAPPY after reading Prof. Karmakar's note on the GAA and Faculty stance on the upgradation. There are too many confusing news article and I think there is a purpose behind the confusion. I fully support the BESU faculty stance and with that I would request all alumni worlwide to register as GAABESU memeber and encourage the GAABESU IIT/INI committee to work and fulfill our dreams.As we can see, there seems to be a silence from the WBG side unlike Kerala and I think they have a purpose to it. I would request all the alumni who are close to the WBG to set themselves above the petty/selfish intentions and support this upgradation along with the faculty and a "few alumni".
Thanks,
Piyali Dey
Texas, USA
Comments by Susobhan Ghosh from United States on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 12:31 - IP Logged
I am a) puzzled, b)frustrated and c)happy.
a) 'm puzzled to read conflicting statements in the same report such as the following:
"BESUS" is graded has been ranked 1 by MHRD" and then up/down the paragraph it also reads:
"MHRD/Central Govt. denied BESUS of IIT/INI status".
b) Then I got frustrated because no one provides any clue why has it been denied? Is there any official record or report that MHRD did really ranked BESUS as no. 1? A normal reader may come to the conclusion that few of us are falsely claiming the ranking. Assuming that we have been ranked no.1, who is then opposing it from behind the smoke screen. Is it WBG, CG, or some other aliens?
c) I am really really happy to see the activities by professors, teachers' union, and (sorry to say) "a few alumni". So far I found the comments posted by Prof. Karmakar as the most transparent one that he could have posted. I really commend him for that.
c) I am also delighted to see that all these alumni working hard for this important issue of IIT/INI upgrade, and it is apparent that they really care for the cause from the bottom of their heart.
Please KEEP IT UP!!
really really really really
Comments by Swapan Saha from United States on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 10:39 - IP Logged
Ajoyda,
About your question on what we, alumni, should do is simple - join GAA and let GAA coordinates all wiling stakeholders of BESU to continue this initiative by lobbying, appealing, convincing and even "fighting" with all decision makers till our goal is achieved. Personally for me, it is the most important requirement for BESU to regain its past glory.
Thanks,
Swapan Saha, 88EE
Comments by Prabal Choudhury 71 Electrical from Canada on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 09:13 - IP Logged
We must congratulate our faculty members for taking such a bold step for upgradation of BESU to IIT/INI. All of us like students, alumni,staffs and all the well wishers of BESU should now stand behind our teachers and must support the initiative strongly. Let us all stand up and do our bit to take this initiative further so that we may achieve our goal of IIT/INI in the year 2006.
Comments by Ajoy Ghosh from India on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 at 20:59 - IP Logged
I find it is the teaching community which has taken the first "Direct Action" step in order to get the Central and State Government out of their slumber, rather than the students (As was in NIT, Durgapur) or the Alumi (As in BHUIT).
It is now time for the Alumni comunity to rise above petty leg-pulling and
one-upmanship and stand beside the proffessors.
Lead ..., follow ... or get out of the way. If the teachers are ready to lead, let others atleast follow.
Personally, I am waiting for somebody to tell me in what way I may be of help.
Ajoy Ghosh
1980 Mech. Engg.
Comments by Molay from India on Monday, March 13, 2006 at 15:58 - IP Logged
Telegraph:
Campus cry for IIT clarity
- Shibpur teachers stage sit-in for status on upgrade
A STAFF REPORTER
Teachers of Bengal Engineering and Science University (BESU) on Monday staged a sit-in demonstration on campus demanding that the air be cleared on the institution’s proposed Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) status.
The central committee of the Union human resource development department had come calling at the Shibpur campus on December 2, dangling the IIT carrot.
On February 23, it conducted a meeting to discuss the upgrade. But no one quite seems to know what’s happening and why.
“The Centre has not breathed a word about making BESU an IIT or an Institute of National Importance (INI). The committee recently asked us to draw up a Rs 20-crore plan identifying thrust areas of research that will contribute to the development of the nation,” said Manas Hira, secretary of Bengal Engineering and Science University Teachers’ Association.
BESU had submitted a project plan of Rs 900 crore to the central committee. IIT status could guarantee the varsity an annual corpus of Rs 100 crore, the association said.
The university now receives a Rs 13 crore annual grant from the state government. The teachers’ association wants the state government to throw its weight behind the BESU demand for IIT status. “We want to know what the state government’s stand on the issue is. It has not yet made one clear statement,” alleged Hira.
N.R. Bandopadhyaya, president of the teachers’ association, pointed out how the Kerala and Assam governments had recently made a strong pitch to the human resource development department for setting up IITs in their states.
“BESU has contributed immensely to the dissemination and creation of knowledge. The only way forward for the university is through the granting of IIT or INI status,” said Bandopadhyaya.
According to the association, without proper infrastructure for research the varsity would not be able to progress. BESU now has just five research scholars, it claimed.
Rourkee Engineering, set up at the same time as BESU, has been granted IIT status.
After December’s inspection, the central committee members had reportedly revealed that the 150-year-old BESU had been ranked first among the seven institutes being considered for IIT status. “If there was a ranking done, we would like to know where we stand,” demanded Hira.
Statesman:
Besu pulls up socks, JU blasé
Statesman News Service
Kolkata, March 13. – In the aftermath of the Union ministry of human resources development’s denying IIT or Institute of National Importance status to Bengal Engineering and Science University, Shibpur and Jadavpur University, faculty of Besu are on the warpath while their counterparts in JU appear blasé.
Bengal Engineering and Science University teachers have become fiercely active, from holding executive council meetings to sending a series of deputation to officials. The campus is swamped with protest posters.
It’s an entirely different picture at Jadavpur University. “Teachers are not involved in this issue. We were deliberately kept out of every decision. The board of studies and academic council are totally blank on the development. Whatever we know is from the newspapers,” said Prof Tarun Nashkar, teacher at Mechanical Engineering department.
Besu wants to bring in this upgradation before 24 November, when the university will complete 150 years. Dissatisfied at the outcome of the meeting held at Delhi with MHRD, the teachers, students and alumni have repeatedly approached the state government to re-work the issue. The faculty members will wear protest badges until the state takes a “constructive” approach. Demonstrations have already begun on the university campus and the teachers might even go to the Writers’ Buildings to meet the chief minister, said Mr Manas Hira, secretary of Bengal Engineering and Science University Teachers Association.
Comments by Piyali Dey from United States on Monday, March 13, 2006 at 11:34 - IP Logged
Dear crtics,
There is no point in spinning words as "Mission Impossible" at this stage. As A GAA alumni volunteer, we need to do our level best to fulfill our dreams. I hope all of you will refrain from such negative campaign in future and go by facts and bring a solution collectively. I request all the alumni worlwide to join GAA (alumni lobby) and fulfill our dreams rather than spinning your negative comments and watching the game from the sideline.
Thanks,
Piyali Dey (1990)
GAA ALumni co-ordinator, Texas
Comments by Swapan Saha from United States on Monday, March 13, 2006 at 01:03 - IP Logged
Prabalda,
IIT/INI initiative at this stage is being driven by "Team BESU" and alumni are presented in "Team BESU" by GAABESU. GAABESU formed a sub-committee to drive IIT/INI initiative from GAABESU side. Hence, we should not mention any particular person or any small group as a lot of people are working long hours keeping our hope alive!
We need to make sure we all are united for the most important goal - IIT/INI status for BESU! IF MHRD wants to upgrade any Insitution to an IIT/INI (which is very much true), BESU should not be deprived from this golden opportunity for any reason!
It justifies to bring more alumni to GAABESU platform and GAABESU needs help and support from all wiling alumni.
Thanks,
Swapan Saha, 88EE
A volunteer at http://www.becollege.org
Comments by Prabal Choudhury 71 Electrical from Canada on Sunday, March 12, 2006 at 14:25 - IP Logged
What Swapan Saha and his team has done so far is exemplary and needs support from all. There is no point in finding faults with the movement and loosing hope all together. We have to rather mobilise more people, try to do our bit and support the initiative to take it further. Terming it as Mission Impossible and giving up the initiative at this stage will not take us anywhere. Atleast through this process BEC has been recognised as an institute with potential for upgradation to IIT/INI and has earned a name on the national basis. Let us all rise above small things and get together in the interest of our alma mater. The Mission should always strive to make the impossible Possible. Let us say Impossible is Nothing.
Comments by Santanu Karmakar from India on Sunday, March 12, 2006 at 08:11 - IP Logged
My humble submission to all respected critics cum well wishers is to "Arise, awake and wait till the goal is reached". IIT, Shibpur is our Mission as well as Goal. Please nurture it so that it may be achieved much before 150th Anniversary Celebration scheduled to be held on 24th November, 2006. We all know that BEC/BECDU/BESUS has already earned the position as one of the most potential institutes for upgradation to an IIT after submission of final report of the three men expert committee on 13th Feb., 2006. The said expert committee has categorized the enlisted seven institutes as level-I, II and III. MHRD may be unwilling to publish this result. May I request to my all respected critics cum well wishers to pursue for having an official copy of this result as reported by the expert committee. It is the fact (though unofficial) that BEC/BECDU/BESUS earns the top sheet of level-I after a rigorous testing/screening throughout India. At this critical juncture we should join our hands and put our concerted effort for having a copy of this result from MHRD, GOI.
Alumni should come forward to form a strong base of GAABESUS through their spontaneous drive for life memberships so that we may reach our goal of IIT, Shibpur despite all possible negative political forces. In this regard, I would like to appreciate the statements of Swapan Saha posted on 12th March, 2006 who has been serving dedicatedly for the cause of our alma mater for more than five years.
We would also like to request to all my respected critics cum well wishers to come up with a very positive strategic plan to win over against all these evil political forces within the next few months,
Expecting our mission – IIT, Shibpur would be fulfilled much before our 150th Anniversary Celebration.
With warm regards,
Santanu Karmakar,
Alumnus, 1983ME
Comments by Swapan Saha from United States on Sunday, March 12, 2006 at 05:54 - IP Logged
Dear Critic,
Please clarify what do you mean by "the opportunity of greater participation from us". I believe all of us have and had opportuntiy to help our Alma Mater and we just need to take those opporunities and jump into them to pursue them. Talk (here "comment") is cheap and coming up with some conclusion is easy. But to do something, to lobby/request/appeal/"fight" to improve our Alma Mater is not easy. Otherwise, we would have seen some improvements already. We know it is a difficult task but we all can assure you both "active" alumni and faculty will continue "lobbying/appealing/convincing or even "fighting" what is the most important for our Alma Mater - a national character in the form of an IIT/INI.
We still do not know what is the intention of WBG and other power brokers in WB, but we all convinced, we need to act appropriately to convince all decision makers - what is good for our Alma Mater, what is good for WB and what is good for India. We are spending a lot of resources to form GAA as it is needed to sustain this "Marathon" process.
Hence, we request our alumni who care for our Alma Mater and join GAA and lead appropriate committees including IIT/INI initiative from the front line. We hope leading from GAA platform will provide resources, accoutability and transparency to this process.
Thanks,
Swapan Saha
Comments by Swapan Saha from United States on Sunday, March 12, 2006 at 04:02 - IP Logged
Can we request all "well wishers" to identify themselves? I do not see any problem in using real names unless someone has some other motives. We may not agree everything but can openly state what we want, what we observe and we do for our Alma Mater.
We clearly stated the situtation from those who are involved with this initiative from the early stage when not many well wishers were around or even not many of them had any clue on what alumni are doing and even what this "IIT/INI" initiative means to us and our Alma Mater.
To make things straight, please identify yourself, present your conclusion based on the facts. Nobody knows the outcome of yet but if you have time to read the update ditributed t 3500+ alumni on Feb 24, midnight, you will have some clue of the initiative as they are still valid. In case you do not know about the message, I am referring here, please ask alumni office or alumni web team for a copy of that message. Maybe, you neither cared to read that message not cared joined to "free" email distribution list.
Hope you will come forward, become a member of GAA and actively participate as a driver from GAA to continue this Mission with fellow alumni, faculty and other "well wishers". Alumni and Faculty team will continue this task within their limit. We hope both GOI and WBG will agree and make this Mission as a reality!
Thanks for your time,
Swapan Saha
Comments by A critic and an alumnus from United States on Sunday, March 12, 2006 at 03:00 - IP Logged
Hi Saswata,
I personally agree with your assessment of this mission and terming this initiative as "Mission Impossible" may hurt only the feelings of those who are trying to fool around the alumni community and others who are passionate and selflessly anxious on its outcome. I bet you that the alumni involved in this process along with the VC and others in the administration already know of the outcome and are either tight-lipped or diverting our attention away from the core of this initiative. There is no suspense left in this "mission" and the alumni community are not baffled in reverie.
Incidentally I am also a graduate from your department and have the "privilege" of witnessing the menace of a "Cadre turned faculty" in my otherwise days of glory at BEC. By giving in to the political musclepower, these selfish souls will achieve their mission but will be held responsible for shattering the dreams of the next generation of alumni and the opportunity of greater participation from us.
Comments by Saswata Misra, 94 CST from Micronesia on Thursday, March 09, 2006 at 21:10 - IP Logged
On a lighter note, and given the political will of the West Bengal government, can the topic be changed to 'Mission Impossible' rahter than 'Mission-IIT Shibpur'.
I apologize if I hurt someone ;-)
Comments by A critic and alumnus from India on Thursday, March 09, 2006 at 16:12 - IP Logged
BESU should use some of the funding to set up an entrepreneurship cell as all the IIT's have done. IIT Kharagpur has created dozens of spin off companies due to their entrepreneurship cell. There is too much focus on our engineers or engineers in general getting good placements and then working their way up in the companies that hired them to get high positions. Instead we should encourage students to start their own companies and also encourage more doctorates to produce the research which leads to spin off companies. You need only look at Stanford and the creation of companies such as Google and Yahoo! to see what can be achieved with the right backing for entrepreneurs. Even lesser colleges such as Osmania and Cusat have entrepreneurship cells where we don't.
Comments by Molay Halder from India on Thursday, March 09, 2006 at 12:11 - IP Logged
It does seem as though the vice chancellor has not identified one area to focus on and has instead chosen three areas." Besu has chosen an area of study incorporating applied chemistry, chemical engineering and biotechnology", which seems unusual as the MHRD asked for one area only. Is the VC suggesting building some sort of weird hybrid chemical,biotech,applied chem department all rolled into one or is he talking about building three separate new departments. Such a hybrid department would not make any sense and at best seems confused. Possibly he is suggesting building three separate departments. Either way we should ask for funding to build a new library and audiorium aswell as such projects will require huge amounts of funding to the tune of 15 crore in total that the alumni cannot fund by themselves. If the VC is already asking for more than the MHRD is suggesting than I do not see why we cannot ask for more funding for even more departments and improved infrastructure. Our competitor is asking only for 30 crore while we are asking for 50 crore, so presumably there is scope to ask for even more, in which case we should do exactly that and improve the institute as much as possible.
Comments by Well Wisher from United States on Thursday, March 09, 2006 at 11:50 - IP Logged
I think we are missing the point. Are not BESU supposed to identify "one area" and submit a proposal as MHRD advised? It does not make sense to build a new dept or program from scratch and make it a center of excellence overnight! BESU should either find a program from existing programs to improve it or improve a few basic infrastructures with this proposed funding.
Comments by Well wisher from Canada from Canada on Thursday, March 09, 2006 at 11:21 - IP Logged
I think Chemical Engineering is a required department as it is the only major core department missing. With the huge growth of the chemical sector in Haldia and the new chemicals park in Howrah there will be demand for such engineers. Biotech and nanotech should also be included , Biotech at undergraduate level and nanotech possibly at post grad level, both will have huge prospects in the fututre for placements. Applied chemistry is possibly not such a great idea as pure scientists are not much in demand and with the new Indian Institutes of Science and Educational Research at Pune,Kalyani and now Chandigarh coming up I'm not sure we can compete with them to produce high quality pure scientists. We should instead focus on Engineering. We could easily ask for all three Chemical,Biotech and nanotech departments if not more for aeronautical and pharmaceutical departments aswell and I think the MHRD may well grant us all these. Any new departments that we do build should be absolutely cutting edge, even better and more advanced than the IIt's.We should maximise this opportunity and ask for as many facilities as possible.The MHRD team that visited BESU did say ours was the best institute they have seen of the seven visited, so I am sure they will part with extra funds. I am not sure how well the new library and auditorium alumni projects are going on but possibly we could ask for funding for these too. We can be sure that the other six institutes chosen are preparing high grade and very ambitious projects of their own. This may be one of our few opportunites to upstage our competititor.
Comments by Well Wisher Alumnus from Canada on Thursday, March 09, 2006 at 07:20 - IP Logged
Yes we should go for Nanotechnology may be within the Material Science Department rather than Chemical Engg. which is a traditional field and totally new to BEC. It would be difficult for BESU to be a leader in chemical engg.where there are many established players in the country.
Comments by Alumni from India on Thursday, March 09, 2006 at 02:53 - IP Logged
We should use this opportunity to set up the country's first undergraduate Nanotechnology department as this is the field of the future and we could make histroy by having it here first. We could also set up a environmnetal and renewable energies department.
Comments by Kaushik from India on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 at 16:17 - IP Logged
Are there going to be 3 new separate departments? Are they going to each have their own building or are they all to be housed in the same building? BESU has long needed a chemical engineering department , as it is the only core department missing from the campus. The Biotech department is also good as probably the major emerging area. We should only hire Phd holders for the new faculty as we have an opportunity to rectify some of the issues surrounding non Phd faculty in other parts of the institute, that has come up in the past in comparison with the IIT's. We should invite world renowned architects for the building(s), to help shed this image that we are older and less modern than our competitor. A Pharmaceuticals or Aeronautics department would not hurt either.
Comments by Well Wisher from India on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 at 11:48 - IP Logged
This is good news. I think the VC has chosen the right departments to be set up with the interim money given by MHRD. I'm glad the food technology and safety engineering departments were not given the go ahead as nobody would want to study these.We should set them up in striking,state of the art new buildings on the campus.
Comments by Chatterjee from India on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 at 11:43 - IP Logged
Besu, JU to open new chapters
TIMES NEWS NETWORK:
Kolkata: Bengal Engineering and Science University (Besu) and Jadavpur University (JU) have chalked out their plans for the two areas of study they will focus on, when the Union ministry of human resources development (MHRD) gives them additional funds.
Besu and JU have been selected by the MHRD among the seven institutions in the country to be upgraded to the status of IITs or INIs (institutes of national importance). The MHRD has decided that till the time these institutions get their upgraded status, they are given funds to develop one particular area of study each. Besu and JU had been asked to finalise their plans by March 10.
While Besu has chosen an area of study incorporating applied chemistry, chemical engineering and biotechnology, JU has chosen the discipline of thermal engineering.
“We will ask for Rs 50 crores from MHRD to open these departments. We have worked out the details of our requirements and will discuss them with MHRD in Delhi on March 10,” said N R Banerjea, Besu vice-chancellor.
“We plan to offer undergraduate and post graduate courses, have a designated building for the new departments, appoint new faculty members and admit at least 40 students in each course,” he added.
JU has chosen thermal engineering because it is an emerging area of study. “We will ask for Rs 30 crore to set up the new department. We chose thermal engineering because many existing engineering departments like chemical engineering, metallurgical engineering, production engineering and mechanical engineering will be part of it,” said SK Sanyal, pro-vice chancellor, JU.
However, JU is yet to draw up its final plan and has requested the MHRD for more time. On Monday, a committee was formed to prepare the plan. It is expected to chalk out the plan the end of the month.
Comments by Amitava Jana from United States on Monday, March 06, 2006 at 16:46 - IP Logged
I see there are two petitions by IT-BHU
1)Upgradation of IT-BHU to IIT:
http://www.petitiononline.com /ITBHU/petition.html
Total signatures: 3590 as of today
2)Plea to Induct the Most Deserving Engineering Institutions as IITs and Strengthen the IIT Brand Petition:
http://new.petitiononline.com /mod_perl/signed.cgi?NewIITs
Total signatures: 2411 as of today
Also this is what IT-BHU is doing (or thinking?):
IIT Petition Update
http://www.itbhu.org/ archives/2006/03/index.html
The above information may help our leaders to tune their plan of action about BEC’s Mission……
Comments by Piyali Dey from United States on Saturday, March 04, 2006 at 20:44 - IP Logged
Yogesh,
We really rely on your source of info. Keep posting your comments since you are working more closely with the IIT issue. WE only hope best of luck to BHU and BESU.
Comments by Swapan Saha from United States on Saturday, March 04, 2006 at 15:10 - IP Logged
Dear Yogesh,
Please feel free to post your comments here as you are following this IIT/INI development for last 3+ years very closely with your reliable sources and certainly can provide updates based on the big picture with some objectivity than our regular reporters publishing articles whicj often confuse many. However, we still see a few reporters are covering this development quite well.
Welcome to the web site of Global Alumni Association of BESU. We support ITBHU's petition "Induct the Most Deserving Engineering Institutions as IITs and Strengthen the IIT Brand". We hope both ITBHU and BESU will be upgraded to IIT/INIs as both deserve to be there!
Thanks,
Swapan Saha, 88EE (BEC)
Comments by Arvind Singh IT-BHU from India on Saturday, March 04, 2006 at 10:44 - IP Logged
Thnx Yogesh Sir,
Out of all the news comming in media about IIT issue none seem to have held the ethics of journalism.... Pick a newspaper and it may have news quite drastically opposite from the other one....
In this regard Only Jogesh Sir (IT-BHU) and Arvind Gupta(IT-BHU) have given remarkably good and up-to date news on IIT issue.
Hence i request the BEC community and the rest to atleast thnx such people even if they r not from ur institute for giving such reliable and valuable info on this issue both at Rediff (Remember the IIT issue at Rediff has been consistantly covered by both of the above) and at other sites...
Regards
Arvind Singh
4th Yr. Electrical
IT-BHU
Comments by Yogesh K. Upadhyaya from United States on Saturday, March 04, 2006 at 09:44 - IP Logged
Dear Friends:
Recently there have been excitement and anxiety in the air caused by the press-release from CUSAT to several national newspapers. I take this opportunity to clarify some of the points:
1) Anyone can publish PTI report. They do not question a press-release submitted by the college. The article clearly states that state govt. has 'granted' IIT status to CUSAT!
2) CUSAT is excited over Rs. 21 crores funding to be received from the centre. However, as per meeting held at HRD Ministry office in New Delhi on Feb. 23rd, all the colleges will receive Rs. 15-30 crores as initial funding, being the leftover money from the current year of 10th 5-yr plan (April 2002-March 2007). This is to assure them and to ask their final stand on issues such as: participating in national level entrance exam, recruiting faculty from all over the country and state govt. willing to give up control over the college, etc. Govt. has also promised to give Rs. 500-1000 crore to each college, but only Rs. 300 crore is approved so far. Many colleges are just happy to receive that windfall.
IIT issue was not even discussed during that meeting!
3) Some of the media journalists in our country do not verify or try to understand the facts before rushing for publication. They do not subscribe to four golden pillars of journalism, namely:
Accuracy of news,Identifying source, style/structure, and grammar/spelling.
I appreciate your website which accommodates divergent views and views expressed by outsiders.
Regards,
Yogesh K. Upadhyaya
Chemical 1977 (IT-BHU)
New Jersey, USA
Comments by well wisher and alumnus from Canada on Friday, March 03, 2006 at 20:40 - IP Logged
Yes fund makes lot of difference. CU has been ranked 39th in the world by Times London Education Supplement in Arts and Literature. delhi university ranked 87. no other indian university could make it. IIT ranked third next to MIT and UC Berkelay in technology area.
Comments by Alumnus from United States on Friday, March 03, 2006 at 16:23 - IP Logged
I do not think student's merit has anything to do with the current situation. It is more political than we can think of. SO, I do not buy in student's merit in WBJEE has anything to do with it.
Comments by Well wishers from United States on Friday, March 03, 2006 at 16:21 - IP Logged
Simple answer - Dirty party politics of West Bengal Govt and its cronies at BESU!
Comments by Alumnus from United States on Friday, March 03, 2006 at 16:18 - IP Logged
How can Cochin get IIT status and BESU has to struggle? I have not heard CUSAT as a premiere institution till today? BESU needs to gain some momentum. Politics need to be segregated from education system. I have heard through the grapevine, that BESU is well ahead of other proposed universities in the list....

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Centre accords IIT status to Cochin University of Science and Technology
Press Trust of India
Thiruvananthapuram, March 3, 2006












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In a major boost to the Cochin University of Science and Technology (CUSAT), the institution has been accorded IIT status by the Union government, an official press release said.
The decision followed discussions held by Additional Chief Secretary PJ Thomas and CUSAT Vice-Chancellor A Abdul Azeez with Human Resources Department Secretary Sudeep Banerjee.
The Centre had sanctioned Rs 21.87 crore for CUSAT as the first instalment for the University's development.
Various research activities would be introduced at CUSAT in the next six years.
A sum of Rs 12.7 crore has been set apart for research and advanced research departments, the release said.
Fifteen research fellowships and 15 post-doctoral fellowships would be introduced at the University.
The Human Resources ministry had asked CUSAT to submit a detailed report on the schemes to be implemented in the institution for the next five years, the release added.

Comments by Well wishers from United States on Friday, March 03, 2006 at 15:35 - IP Logged
Yes, getting good students is very important but the most critial factor to revive BESU is to make it to an INI/INI. As we read getting funds (100 crores at CU) will not change much. We need to have an environment free of political influence which will foster excellence, quality! Only a few political "cronies" deciding the future of BESU will not help anyone!
Comments by Well wisher and alumnus from Canada on Friday, March 03, 2006 at 13:50 - IP Logged
I wanted to impress upon that BESU has to attract best students from WBJEE system to regain its past glory and go up in ranking and status. For that to happen, we have to improve our faculty resources, laboratories and other infrastructure facilities particularly for the electronics, computer science and electrical engg. deptts. as the best students look for these deptts. only. Unless quality of intake students improve, nothing is going to get us a better ranking and status. And to make that happen we have to beat our competitor. BESU must formulate a strategic plan keeping that as focus. BEC was better in the past only because better students used to join BEC.
Comments by Amitava Jana from United States on Friday, March 03, 2006 at 12:44 - IP Logged
There is a news on CUSAT
March 3,2006
Centre accords IIT status to Cochin University of Science and Technology
http://www.hindustantimes.com /news/181_1641291,000900020003.htm
CUSAT gets IIT status
http://news.webindia123.com/news/ showdetails.asp?id=267559&cat=India
May be the reason of this outcome is --
May 27,2005
Government backing CUSAT for IIT status
http://www.hindu.com/2005/05/27/ stories/2005052716410300.htm
Comments by Well wisher from India on Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 17:24 - IP Logged
MP Shri Swadesh Chakrabortty
I think this gentleman is also chairman of the Howrah Improvement Trust and does hold some considerable sway in his party and the local Howrah area. I wouldn't be surprised if members of the college have already met him in various official circumstances and possibly know him quite well. We should contact him by mail at his Delhi and Howrah addresses to make him aware of the opportunities to invest in BESU and of the potential benefits for Howrah. We should all try and contact him to arrange this. Beyond that , possibly he should be invited to BESU at the next official function to be held there and the college authorities and alumni can talk to him directly. We should spread the news about such an initiative. Regarding environmental engineering isn't there some proposal of BESU to get fresh water from the Hooghly and a project undertaken by Kolkata Port Trust to this effect for BESU? Possibly this could be expanded into a full scale environmental engineering department.
Comments by Well wishers from United States on Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 16:19 - IP Logged
Shibpur comes under Howrah and MP of Howrah is Name Shri Swadesh Chakrabortty;
Constituency / State Howrah (West Bengal)

Party CPI(M)
Constituency Address 127, Sambhu Halder Lane, Howrah, West Bengal - 711 106
Telephone 033-26559053 /4466
Delhi Address 315, 408, and 522, V.P. House, New Delhi - 110 001
Telephone 011-23353969, 9868180138(M)
To know his MPLABs, please check row number 23 of the following URL.
It will interesting how a sitting party MP will be interested to help BESU with his funds as his local comrades are not in favour of loosing control of BESU to Central Govt.
Best of luck!
Comments by kaushik basu from India on Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 15:37 - IP Logged
Or perhaps we could set up an environmental engineering institute with MPLADS money that could benefit Howrah through monitoring environmental quality such as air quality,water quality etc in the region, as well as doing cutting edge research in environmental and renewable energies technology. The next institute to be set up at IIT Kanpur by Arun Shourie with MPLADS money is an enevironmental technology centre,we could do the same. We need to find out the details and email of the local MP quickly and mount this campaign. Are there any prominent members of the WB government who are BESU alumni that we could also contact about this?
Comments by Chatterjee from India on Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 15:14 - IP Logged
Still this MPLADS scheme is still a most interesting idea and probably the easiest way to get a large sum of money of 12 crore to set up a new department or two at the college seeing that only 15 to 20 crore is going to be provided to BESU in the mean time. The people of Bengal and of Howrah do hold a tremendous amount of goodwill to the college and the colleges history is closely intertwined with the fabric of Bengal itself.
If we could use the money to set up something that would clearly benefit Howrah and Shibpur as a region I don't see why we should not receive MPLADS funding as IIT Kanpur has. Therefore if we set up perhaps a railway engineering department in conjunction with Howrah station , a chemical engineering dfepartment to spur the growth of chemical industries in Howrah,or an entrepreneurship and innovation cell to encourage new companies to appear from the institute (such as in the SIDBI centre for entrepreneurship at IIT Kanpur) and then set up base in Howrah to provide high tech industry in Howrah which is currently lacking, it may be possible to get MPLADS funding.
We could easily start a campaign for it quite soon, especially as elections are coming round and the MP or new MP will have another 12 crore allocation to spend, this would be the perfect opportunity for him to spend it here and for us to expand.
Does anybody know who is the MP in the BESU Shibpur region? Does anybody have his e-mail address?
If it can be done at IIT Kanpur it can be done here!
Comments by A critic and an alumnus from United States on Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 07:07 - IP Logged
Referring to the "MPLADS scheme" tabled by Mr. Jogga, the same can be achived only with a progressive mindset and thought-leadership of the concerned MP who has to play the role of the peoples' representative rather than a mere politician. The mindset and the outlook of the people and their representatives (who also happen to be politicians) in progressive states in India have drastically changed and are being reflected in such pioneering steps taken by Mr. Shourie and others. However, in West Bengal it works based on "political will" as rightly quoted by my childhood friend who happens to be a "Marhwari" from my earlier neighbourhood in Southern Avenue. Be it "Right" or the "Left", all parties are motivated for political stunt and gimmicks which in turns promotes mediocrity. The Marhwari and other business communities are successful in doing business in WB by capitalizing on these narrow-mindedness and weaknesses and that's why Harsh Neotia and Sanjeev Goenka are considered to be the "Pride" and "Son of the soil" of present day West Bengal. But, that's another debate for another day...
The bottomline is that the progressive mindset and willingness of the people to promote and seek for excellency and not mediocrity can make this happen.
I was watching this morning's (EST) news telecast of "Aaj Tak"
while getting ready to head to work - "The Maharashtra Govt. has decided to de-register all those doctors who are on strike."
When will such bold but progressive actions be taken in West Bengal, where votes can be counted in numbers, mere numbers....
Comments by Chatterjee from India on Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 03:27 - IP Logged
Sorry, not 120 crore, 15 to 20 crore I mean
Comments by Chatterjee from India on Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 03:25 - IP Logged
I'm not sure there will be enough funding for four new deaprtments. the 120 corore being supplied by the MHRD will prrbably only stretch to build two new departments, before the upgrade if it happens, in 07 in the next plan period.
Of the departments proposed , I think Chemical Engineering and Biotechnology would be best to set up right now. Otherwise, an aeronutical engineering department wouldn't be too bad, and would certainly be better than the food technology or Safet engineering departments proposals.
Maybe postgrad nanotech and nuclear engineering departments could be set up aswell in the future
Comments by Jogga from India on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 at 15:47 - IP Logged
While we are waiting for confirmation regarding INI status a few thoughts on extra income generation.
1.MPLADS scheme- The MP local area development scheme is usually used to fund local road projects and parks and other issues. However , a precedent was set when Arun Shourie gifted his entire 12 crore MPLADS funding to IIT Kanpur to set up a Biotech department and new building for it. BESU holds a lot of goodwill from local people and possibly we should ask the local MP to part with the cash and fund a new department here instead of building roads or whatever else he intends to do with it.He intends to give another 12 crore to set up another department at the institute.
http://www.rediff.com/
money/2004/ oct/
18spec1.htm
2.One major advantage we have over our competitor is our availability of land,which they have little of. We could take adavantage of this by setting up an entrepreneurial park such as the STEP park at IIT Kharagpur or the Research park at IIT Madras.
3.We could invite companies to set up research labs on our campus such as IBM research has in IIT Bombay. It was upsetting to see Hewlett Packard set a mobile computing lab at our competetitors campuswhen we ourselves are trying so hard to set such a lab here. We should invite similar companies such as IBM or Sun Microsystems to set up labs here through Sun Centre of Excellence schemes maybe in VLSI or electronics related areas or mobile computing. My understanding is that Sun has already funded the VLSI project to some extent.
Thoughts welcome?
Comments by kaushik basu from India on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 at 15:12 - IP Logged
Some questions?
Regarding the comments by the well wisher below, does anybody know whether our new VLSI lab is more advanced than JU's? It is newer.
JU gets a grant of about 100cr per year(for all departments,not just Faculty of Tech and Engineering), I think our grant is about 16cr. Correct me if I am wrong.
Are we eligible to receive the "Centre of Excellence" tag and the extra I think 30 crore it brings with it from the UGC, or is this tag only available for general universities like JU and CU? If not we should apply for it.
The VC has suggested setting up Biotech,Health and Safety,Chemical and Food Technology departments, are there any other departments in addition to or instead of these departments that we should set up?
Comments by Well Wisher Alumnus from Canada on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 at 14:31 - IP Logged
I fully agree with our alumnus critic from USA. Dirty Politics and interference in administartion is spoiling all the good effort put in by others. Unless we can get out of this vicious circle, our institution is going to suffer.In fact, the other institute from WB is probably having more of these problems than what BESU has. But they are getting a little higher ranked students from the WBJEE system and that is creating a better public image for them. Considering IIT a distant dream, probably BESU has to take certain immediate steps to improve its quality,ranking and status. Let us first try to be the best in our own state among the non IIT institues and once we achieve this our ranking will automatically go up in the national ranking. We have to first attract the best students from Bengal to join BESU and this is the key to our success. Let BESU offer some innovative programs like coop programs in engg. which other institutes are not offering. As the best students are going for CS/ Electronics/Electrical Engg.etc, let us make these areas centres of excellence and better than our immediate competitor. Once higher ranked JEE/HS candidates start joining BESU, many other things will fall in place. Ofcourse we have to keep campus politics/ violence totally away if we want to see BESU regain its old glory of being the finest institute in the country.
Comments by Alumnus and a well wisher from United States on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 at 11:53 - IP Logged
The comment posted by the Critic and Alumnus seems to be correct. Publishing a faculty AD to "Ganashakti" does not qualify as national level recruitment. Why we can not take dirty party politics outside of the Campus which seems to be cause of all the evils.
Comments by A critic and an alumnus from United States on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 at 02:33 - IP Logged
Guys,
The articles are not confusing but perhaps we are. The silver bullet for transforming BESU to a leading seat of engineering education and research and be at par with the IITs lies in providing "autonomy" to the administration to provide transparency in their processes. However, from what I can make out from all these media coverages and the body language of the state government, that's where their intervention and (political) interest is being challenged. Let's not divert from this dirty little secret that the BESU, erstwhile BEC, has been a center of polictics under the indulgence of the administrators who are appointed by the ruling party and execute orders as puppets looking after only their self interests. Further their interests and influence will be challenged and threatedend with the proposal of appointment in the faculty and the administrative positions on a "national" basis. Merely placing an ad in the inside page of a national newspaper in a cryptic format doesn't qualify or serve the purpose of recruitment on a national basis. Moreover, a cosmopoliton mix of students community will also hurt the endeavor of recruiting new and fresh cadres who will be the torch-bearers of the next generation of faculty / administrators.
The first step in the process of making a change for a better tomorrow for BESU is to acknowledge this current state of affairs and address those appropriately. Many of the members and advisories of GAABESU and others in the alumni community are distinguished citizens with illustrious profile and career. It's time to stand up and show your disgruntlement. It's also a shame to have only 2000 odd signatories, including some outsiders and make-alikes, for the petition with a alumni base of 150 years of the college!
Comments by Well Wisher from Canada on Friday, February 24, 2006 at 13:45 - IP Logged
Dear Friends
We all wish to see our almamater as IIT/INI.We are unaware what politics is going on beteween GOI and WBG and how long we will have to wait for the final outcome. But I find some basic things are missing as far as BESU,s current status is concerned. I checked with UGC website and could not find BESU's name either in the approved university list or in the list of Deemed Universities. Probably there is some missing link and we have to take immediate action to correct it.
I also checked with google's university site where BESU name is not in the list. We as alumni may send request to Google ( provided in the site) to enlist BESU's name which hardly requires few minutes. May I request all our alumni to take this trouble for the sake of our almamater.
Comments by Amitava Jana from United States on Friday, February 24, 2006 at 10:26 - IP Logged
IIT Issue for CUSAT
CUSAT to receive up to Rs. 1,200 crores for upgrading facilities
University to submit action plan for reforms during the next six years
For details see:
Source: The Hindu
Friday, Feb 24, 2006
http:// www.hinduonnet.com /2006/02/24/stories/2006022421870400. htm
Kerala
Comments by Cahtterjee from India on Friday, February 24, 2006 at 01:31 - IP Logged
TOI
Funds now, IIT status on hold for Besu & JU
TIMES NEWS NETWORK
Kolkata: This will put to rest, for the time being at least, the tug of war between the Centre and the state over two of Bengal’s premier universities — Bengal Engineering and Science University (BESU) and Jadavpur University (JU). They will remain state-sponsored universities, though they will be getting extra funds from the centre for upgrading of infrastructure and facility.
The much coveted status of IITs or INI (institute of national imp o r t a n c e ) , however, will remain elusive for a while longer.
For the past six months, ever since BESU and JU were selected by the MHRD for upgradation to IIT status, a debate had been raging as to whether the universities would be “taken over” by the Centre. Experts visited the two universities in December to see if they were fit for the upgradation. The report was submitted in early February on the basis of which a meeting was convened in Delhi on Thursday among representatives of the state, the universities and the MHRD.
It has been decided that the Centre will not “take over” the seven selected universities in any way and they would continue to be run by the state. “This means that the legal status of the institutions will not change and they will continue to remain state sponsored. MHRD officials also told us that no decision has been taken on the IIT/INI tag. This will be decided in the 11th Five-Year Plan,” BESU vice-chancellor N R Banerjea, who was in Delhi for the meeting, said.
However, the entire exercise has not been futile. The MHRD has categorically said that it would still send extra funds to the selected institutions to enable them to improve infrastructure and facilities. The two Bengal varsities are likely to get funds to the tune of Rs 50 crore. Every institution has been rated by the expert team on a preset scale of parameters and the funding will be on the basis of the score. “To start with, we have been told to identify one area of excellence and draw up an upgradation plan for which funds would be given. We have to send this plan within 10 days,” Banerjea added.
The MHRD officials told the selected institutions that they would have to admit students on the basis of a national level entrance exam and that teachers will have to be recruited from across the country.
Comments by Chatterjee from India on Thursday, February 23, 2006 at 02:59 - IP Logged
Time of India
Besu agrees to all-India entry clause
By Jhimli Mukherjee Pandey/TNN
Kolkata: The lure of IIT status finally proved too strong for Bengal Engineering and Science University (Besu). It has agreed to take in students from a national level entrance test rather than the state sponsored West Bengal Joint Entrance Examination (WBJEE).
This had been the moot point of difference between
the university and the Union ministry of human resources development over the grant of the status of IITs or INI (institute of national importance). While the Centre wanted Besu to admit students on the basis of an IITJEE (conducted by IITs) or AIEEE (conducted by the Central Board of Secondary Education) kind of nationwide test, Besu was loath to move away from the WBJEE, arguing that it was also a national exam because it had done away with the domicile criterion in 2004.
However, the Centre did not quite agree to this logic. And Besu did not want to take any chances. So, on Tuesday night, an academic council meeting was convened where it was unanimously resolved that the university might have to stop taking students through WBJEE. On Thursday, the board of management ratified it.
Two alternative suggestions came up in the resolution —the seven institutions that are being considered for the IIT/INI status get together to draw up their own admission test, or they take students from the IITJEE merit list. “I have sent a copy of the resolution to the chief minister, Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee. The university has prayed for his intervention and support for the proposed transformation,” Besu vice-chancellor N R Banerjea told TOI.
He will be meeting officials of the Union HRD ministry on Thursday along with representatives of Jadavpur University to discuss the proposed upgradation.
The board of management and faculty council of Besu have also resolved that a change in the way in which the university is governed might have to be adopted if the upgradation demands it. However, the resolution says that the new governance should be as participative as possible with representation from every section of the university (teaching, non teaching and students).
Comments by Chatterjee from India on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 at 14:28 - IP Logged
IIT status for Besu and JU likely
Statesman News Service
KOLKATA, Feb. 22. — Bengal Engineering and Science University and Jadavpur University could soon be given IIT status. The Ministry of Human Resource Development has invited vice-chancellors of both universities to discuss upgrading the universities to the status of IIT or institute of national importance tomorrow.
The vice-chancellor of Besu, Prof N R Banerjea, has already left for Delhi while pro-vice chancellor of Jadavpur University, Prof. S Sanyal, and executive council member, Prof. Partha Pratim Biswas, will leave tomorrow. The meeting with MHRD has been scheduled at 3 p.m. tomorrow. Higher education secretary, Mr Jawhar Sircar has also been invited to the meet. Though the letter issued to the VCs does not give any clear indication on the points to be discussed, government sources say the discussion might be based on upgrade procedures. The Central government is expected to announce the names of the six institutes that are to be upgraded to IIT status and what grant they will be awarded. The process is an aftermath of the report that was submitted by an expert team of MHRD that visited the institutes in the first week of December. The invitation extended by the ministry has raised a wave of excitement in the Shibpur and Jadavpur campuses. A series of meetings and discussions have ensued. Prof Banerjea said the university has prepared its own agenda and ideas concerning the best way of implementing the upgrading process. The global alumni association of Besu has submitted a letter to the chief minister appealing to him to provide help in upgrading the institute to the status of IIT or institute of national importance.
Prof. Biswas said it is a decision between the government and MHRD. “We are just a third party”, said Prof Biswas. It will be the first time an announcement will be made on this issue, he added.
Comments by Well wisher from Canada on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 at 20:50 - IP Logged
I do'nt know the details. He is Mr. Bhattacharya from civil engg. dept.73/74 batch now posted probably at madras.
Comments by Well Wisher from United States on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 at 17:33 - IP Logged
To the Well wisher from Canada,
If you know of any such person, please contact gaabesu@gmail.com and disclose his/her name and contact.
Comments by Well Wisher from Canada on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 at 16:21 - IP Logged
can any body involve one of our civil engg. alumnus( now in madras) of probably 1973/74 batch who is son-in law of one of the stalwarts of CPM and speaker of lok shava now, in our movement for conversion of BEC to IIT.
Comments by Chatterjee from India on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 at 09:57 - IP Logged
State to join talks for BE’s IIT status
TIMES NEWS NETWORK
Kolkata: For the first time, the Union human resources development ministry (MHRD) has taken the state government into confidence regarding the upgradation of Bengal Engineering and Science University and Jadavpur University to IIT or INI (Institute of National Importance).
A letter from the MHRD has invited state higher education secretary Jawhar Sircar and the two vicechancellors to discuss the upgradation issue on February 23.
In the past, MHRD used to interact only with the two universities, and not the state government, which runs the varsities and also gives permission for upgradation.
“I have submitted the invitation to higher education minister Satyasadhan Chakraborty and sought his permission to attend the meeting. I will attend it if the state government permits me,” said Sircar.
MHRD has convened a meeting on February 23 to discuss the upgradation of six shortlisted institutions of higher education. Besu vice-chancellor N R Banerjea, pro-VC S Sanyal of JU and its executive council member Partha Pratim Biswas are scheduled to attend it.
“MHRD will inform the state about the manner in which upgradation can be brought about only after this meeting,” said Biswas.
“The letter from MHRD says that a discussion on the IIT/INI status has been scheduled on the basis of a report submitted by experts,” Banerjea said.
Meanwhile, Besu alumni have written to chief minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee and requested him to elevate the varsity to IIT or INI, for which it had been shortlisted last year by the Centre.
“You have correctly identified the importance of good education in making West Bengal an attractive place for knowledge-based industry and thereby bring about its economic revival. And, Besu’s upgradation will be crucial to that,” the letter said.
“To set up knowledge-based industries, skilled technical personnel will be needed and they can be supplied by IITs. Top-tier companies tend to relocate to places with top-tier schools. A second IIT will meet that need,” the missive claimed.
“At present, top students leave the state on getting admissions to IITs/IISc/BITs. With a second IIT in the state, this brain drain will stop, as top companies will hire them for a premium. This will boost their spending power as well as increase economic activity in the state,” the letter added.
The missive also drew the CM’s attention to the fact that the new status will fetch Besu Rs 100 crore extra every year, which gets Rs 16 crore annually from the state government. Now, the university will get a one-time payment of Rs 900 crore and JU Rs 300 crore.
Comments by sagnik majumder from India on Monday, February 20, 2006 at 22:29 - IP Logged
BESU should be upgraded to IIT.It is only because of its high-quality tradition of technical education that is imparted here,that makes it the right choice for this upgradation.If BESU is not upgraded to the IIT status,it will be a SHAME for this state.BUDDHA BABU,please do us this favour!!!
Comments by Susooshbhan Gh from United States on Monday, February 20, 2006 at 17:33 - IP Logged
All spouses of BEC/BESUS alumni are urged to send a letter to Chief Minister with copies to Governor, VC and Higher Education Minister. You may use the posted e-mail as a guide and then edit to represent yourself as a person who cares for prosperity of W.Bengal.
Comments by Piyali Dey from United States on Monday, February 20, 2006 at 16:54 - IP Logged
To the alumni community,
Please try mobilizing as much BEC alumni you know in this endeavor. If you can involve some IIT alumni too, your efforts will be appreciated. Hoping for some positive response from WBG.

 

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