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"Justice Delayed Is Justice Denied - Prof. Partho Protim Chattopadhyay,84MET, An Executive  Committee Member, BESU Teachers' Association (BESUTA) posted on November 25, 2006, 5 pm (IST)- New

 

During last two and half years BESUS strived hard for upgradation to the Institute of National importance on the occasion of her 150 th anniversary celebration. The issue received strong support in the Anadakrishnan committee report that identified BESUS as the most potential institute for upgradation to INI in the form of an advanced technological institute to be named as IIEST. All the attributes were perfectly conducive for honouring the glory of 150 years of existence of BESUS and its unparallel contribution to the nation building by assuring the upgradation on the inauguration ceremony of its 150 years' celebration. However, the issues like 'governance' and 'admission of students' interfered and overruled the commitments of the nation for the power house of the hitherto accomplished technological potential of the country.   

 

It may not be a surprise to see that BESUS will be upgraded to INI or some other level befitting to the political compulsions and equations governing the higher education in our country. But the manner in which BESUS has been deprived of its rightful position, just for the sake of trivial political interests, on the inauguration ceremony of its 150 years' celebration, will always be remembered in the history."

 

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Comments by Well Wisher of Bengal. from India on Monday, December 11, 2006 at 21:07 - IP Logged
It is the perfect time for starting agitation.
WB Govt is in a real mess in Singur.
We can put more pressure by the planned agitation.
Comments by pbasu from Australia on Monday, December 11, 2006 at 16:38 - IP Logged
Agitation works in West Bengal for destructive purpose. It may never happen for constructive aims. If it does happen then that is by chance or luck.
Comments by well wisher alumnus from Canada on Monday, December 11, 2006 at 15:33 - IP Logged
What happened to proposed agitational program of Besu teachers? should we expect something happening in near future or it is all over and back to the college of the Bengalees, by the Bengalees,for the Bengalees and Mission :"Education-Bengal" as the very name suggests it.
Comments by pbasu from Australia on Monday, December 11, 2006 at 15:08 - IP Logged
Anandakrishnan strongly recommended BESU as an ideal college for INI. Since that very day thousands of requests were sent to WB CM, even unnecessary seminars were held for no reason but only for apprising the public about the necessity for BESU to become INI. THe past present and future of BEC has become unfortunately become entangled with politics and dependent on whims and fancies of political dada's of WB.
Comments by Well Wisher Alumnus from United States on Sunday, December 10, 2006 at 22:46 - IP Logged
Hello Well Wisher, India:
Reader from Canada didn't say that BEC will get the status just because of being 2nd Oldest, he indicated about our reputation and strength. I am not sure but you may be a junior alum with very little knowledge about BEC. You might be aware of the highly qualified achievers among our Alumni. So pl. don't question our quality. And pl. stop political thinking as suggested by Alumnus from Australia. Before you comment and post,I humbly suggest you to think twice.
Comments by pbasu from Australia on Sunday, December 10, 2006 at 16:39 - IP Logged
The very concept of providing due respect to a heritgae listed (not officially in political circles) does not exist in India. BEC thus became a victim of this outdated political thinking.
Comments by well wisher from India on Sunday, December 10, 2006 at 06:52 - IP Logged
The last reader commented that we would get the status just becasue its 2nd oldest Univ. Can you please elaborate how does it matter if it is 2nd oldest?, what matters is the quality. Its been 150 yrs , what status did we get so far? I fully support the senior who says about cheap talk, this is not the place to put any cheap talk!
Comments by A Well Wisher Alumnus/BEC/JU from Canada on Saturday, December 09, 2006 at 13:53 - IP Logged
BESU is the 2nd oldest in India and has its own reputation. It's enough already, let us not beg the status this way. It may be little late, but we will achieve, what we deserve.
I noticed, somebody commented about cheap talk and non-sense talk fom Alumni. I strongly feel that non-sense, non-productive activities are happening elsewhere, so I suggest him/her to find out such lakuna somewhere else, not among ALUMNI. That will probably help us a bit to serve the interest of our ALMA MATER!
Comments by p.basu from Australia on Friday, December 08, 2006 at 01:45 - IP Logged
I read in the news that recently there is a fear among potential IT investors about WB. There was a srike called in a IT company. So thats it-its our bad luck Bengal goes behind another 10 years. It is natural that the political dada's have no idea about the fast changing world.To them B E college is just a college and let it be like that. Another joke about this INI conversion is that there was more drama and publicity before 150th anniversary celebration.
Comments by PPM from India on Thursday, December 07, 2006 at 19:12 - IP Logged
It is very clear that the IIEST(INI) upgradation initiative had been an alumni driven phenomenon with full support from the BESU faculty body and the student body. The Central Govt. MRHD seems to be interested in upgradation process. The WB State Govt is standing as a barrier for BESU's goal of becoming an IIEST(INI). The BESU VC and admin. is MIA. The alumni body has only moral persuasive powers. It is extremely disappointing that the upgradation may not happen because of WBGovt opposition.
Comments by Prabal ChoudhuryBEC(71E)/XLRI from Canada on Thursday, December 07, 2006 at 17:50 - IP Logged
Let us start agitation with uncompromising attitude. This is only way to achieve our goal of IIEST/INI. Compel the authorities to give their unconditional consent.I would rather say "Impossible is Nothing".
Comments by An alumnus from India on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 at 23:11 - IP Logged
Who cares about BESU? None cares - not WBG, not BESU administration, most of the alumni do not care, most of the faculty members do not have much clue and students are rudderless. In case this site shuts it down, we will not even know what goes on then and not that we will even care. If we cared about BESU in true sense things would be much different for better.
If you care "Arise, Awake & stop not till the goal is reached" or forget it forever.
Comments by an Alumnus Loosing Patience from India on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 at 23:22 - IP Logged
Full Support for any such move for IIT/INI.
Everything is possible!
Comments by Prabal ChoudhuryBEC(71E)/XLRI from Canada on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 at 22:20 - IP Logged
Thanks to Atul Sen for such Bold Step. we need more such alumni in calcutta to take up the issue with the authorities / WBG.
Comments by Atul Sen from India on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 at 21:23 - IP Logged
I am calling on the Vice Chancellor to state clearly his position on the IIEST (INI) conversion issue. The State Government unfortunately is blocking the conversion of BESU into IIEST (INI) by raising irrelevant issues. If the conversion to IIEST(INI) fails, I'm calling on the alumni world to boycott BESU till the administration supports the conversion to IIEST.
Comments by well wisher from India on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 at 14:18 - IP Logged
Is it all quiet on the western front? Should we consider the chapter of IIEST / INI closed ? What is latest gimmick from WBG ?
Comments by an Alumnus Loosing Patience from India on Monday, December 04, 2006 at 20:25 - IP Logged
Let us all be united for the sake of our alma mater and prepare for uncompromising agitation which appears to be only way left to achieve our goal of IIEST/INI.
Comments by well wisher alumnus from India on Monday, December 04, 2006 at 09:15 - IP Logged
Let us not indulge in mudslinging and weaken the move.There is no doubt that the web team has worked hard and we have reached close to our goal due to continuous efforts of teachers, students and alumni.But senior alumni based in calcutta, many of them close to state bosses,probably are unable to exert themselves to the extent necessary.Let us all be united for the sake of our alma mater and prepare for uncompromising agitation which appears to be only way left to achieve our goal of IIEST/INI.
Comments by An Alumnus and a Gentleman from United States on Monday, December 04, 2006 at 06:59 - IP Logged
Maybe our online banner should read as:
"Amra sobai cadre amader ei Lal-r rajjotteye...
Noile modher comrade-der saatheye milbe ke sotteye"
Paaiye diye diye College-take gollai paathiyechheye. What a shame!
Comments by Alumnus Loosing Patience from India on Monday, December 04, 2006 at 04:49 - IP Logged
Every alumnus has a right to ask what’s going on for achieving IIT/INI for our beloved college whether he has paid some money or not is a secondary thing and probably much lesser important than achieving IIT/INI tag.
Comments by An alumnus from United States on Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 23:26 - IP Logged
What an excellent place to express expert comments by those who do not know anything nor want to know anything but think they know everything. Talk is cheap which seems to be strength of these well wishers. Carry on, your empty speeches will save our Alma Mater! Hope you paid you membership to use this site - nothing is free except your non-sense!
Comments by well wisher alumnus from India on Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 22:59 - IP Logged
Let our secretary from calcutta make a statement about our action plan now to convert Besu into IIEST/INI? Is there any activity at this crucial juncture? I am yet to come across any statement from our secretary so far? Is he doing anything to compel WBG to give its nod for IIEST or INI ? or he is just waiting for the bosses to be pleased to give their approval.I hope he has understood by this time that WBG is actually trying to stop the process.
Comments by Prosenjit Talapatra from United Kingdom on Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 21:38 - IP Logged
Dada, galagali deben na - ora chanda tulcheye party-r hoye - party office-r paasheyei office korecheye. India phire chakri kore khete hobe toh - BESU-te charkri pele mondo ki bolun? Keno oder bara bhate chhai phelchen?
Comments by A bold and senior alumnus from India on Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 21:34 - IP Logged
Where are the voices of the GAABESU and alumni web team who used to claim of working day in and out for all these years? Sob chaamchaa, dhaadhaabaaj aar aakher gochhnor spineless A**h**es.
Comments by An alumnus from India on Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 22:46 - IP Logged
Of course the culprit is West Bengal Govt. They control BESU with their representatives and they influence Central Govt. if they want, BESU will be INI(IIEST) in no time.
Comments by An alumnus and gentleman from United States on Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 06:07 - IP Logged
I completely agree with the comments of PPM but wholeheartedly appreciate the personal enthusiasm of the Alumus from Canada. If the Secretary from Calcutta could have shown 0.00005% of that! The VC is a hired gun of the Red Brigade and will only echo the words of his master. BEC will eventually sink in the dirty water of politics like the Titanic.
Comments by PPM from India on Friday, December 01, 2006 at 23:32 - IP Logged
Unfortunately it still seems some of us are still doing the delicate tap dance and refusing to identify the real source of the problem. The alumni needs to be ready to take a clear position that the WB Govt. is actually hindering the process of BECollege transformation to IIEST/INI. It is not a political statement, it is a clear understanding of reality. I'm also waiting to hear a clear statement from the VC as to where he stands and what is he doing to transform BECollege to IIEST?
Comments by well wisher alumnus/BEC / XLRI from Canada on Friday, December 01, 2006 at 13:19 - IP Logged
May we change our running headings in the website like "BESU RECOGNISED AS TOP INSTITUTE FOR CONVERSION TO IIEST. WE DEMAND W.B.GOVERNMENT TO ACCEPT GOI PROPOSAL FOR ITS SPEEDY IMPLEMENTATION"
Comments by well wisher alumnus/BEC / XLRI from Canada on Thursday, November 30, 2006 at 15:55 - IP Logged
Most probably state govts. of W. Bengal and Kerala have discretely advised MHRD / GOI not to go for IIEST as this move is creating problems for them. GOI surviving with left front support may go back on the move. WBG is playing tricks with Besu's future and our visionary CM is not able to go beyond his party's interest in this case.Only vigourous agitation may work in such situation.
Comments by pbasu from Australia on Thursday, November 30, 2006 at 15:28 - IP Logged
I will not be surprised if GOI drops the plan for IIEST for ever. I wouldn't blame them.
Comments by Arvind Singh from India on Thursday, November 30, 2006 at 07:46 - IP Logged
plz inform me wheteher GOI has dropped the plans to confer IIEST status to 5 instt.... Is this delayed or dropped for ever.... If latter is the case then why such committe was formed in the first place.
Regard's
Arvind Singh
Comments by Well Wisher Alumnus/BEC/JU from Canada on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 at 16:54 - IP Logged
While taking initiative, pl. ensure that none from your team (inc. Higher Officials) will compromise on the IIEST issue and make sure that nobody will be brainwashed by WBG Stalwarts at all. Otherwise you may have to repent again. Remember one thing, those SO-CALLED STALWARTS will show you Basmati Rice at the discussion table, but you may never get that, you might have to satisfy yourself with poor quality of rice in your dish. This happened NUMEROUS time in last 28 years in WB.
Good Luck.
Comments by Well Wisher of Bengal. from India on Monday, November 27, 2006 at 20:57 - IP Logged
Many Thanks! to Teachers Association of Besu for deciding to go for all out agitation for the implementation of anandkrishnan committee recommendation.
Alumni all over the globe will support you wholeheartedly in your quest for excellence.
We will get IIT/INI tag.
Jai Hind.
BEC Jindabad.
Comments by A. Ghoshal from United States on Monday, November 27, 2006 at 20:34 - IP Logged
I'll be traveling to BECollege next month. Hopefully things would get clearer and more hopeful by then.
Comments by well wisher alumnus/BEC / XLRI from Canada on Monday, November 27, 2006 at 16:05 - IP Logged
Thanks to TeachersAssociation ofBesu for deciding to go for all out agitation for the implementation of anandkrishnan committee recommendation.Time is running out for BESUto avail thelast but the Best oppotunity to convert into a world class instituteIIEST.Loosing this is like committing suicide for Besu.Please go ahead with uncompromising agitation and alumni all over the globe will support you in your quest for excellence.We must not miss the bus this time due to delaying strategy of WBG.
Comments by Arunava Biswas from Norway on Monday, November 27, 2006 at 08:40 - IP Logged
Please read the following (Indian Express ,SHUBHAJIT ROY -NEW DELHI, NOVEMBER 23)
'NIT upgrade Bill ready for House:The legislation is expected to help the 17 NITs become ‘centres of excellence’
HAVING got a green signal from the parliamentary panel on education, the Centre is readying the final draft of a proposed legislation whichwill empower the National Institutes of Technology — formerly known as Regional engineering colleges — to the level of IITs......
Time is running out for BESU
Comments by well wisher alumnus/BEC / XLRI from Canada on Sunday, November 26, 2006 at 09:07 - IP Logged
RECDurgapore boys had to use force to get WBG's approval forNIT.People of Assam had to resort to violent agitation forIITGuwahati.Are we expecting to getit peacefully?or we are satisfied with peanuts?Probably we have lost our backbone to ask for a justified recognition.WBGis not going to give it unless they are compelled to.They are befooling us with false promises.Why do we need their favour for a just recognition earned through 150 years?They must agree forIIEST orForce them to agree.
Comments by Well wisher of BEC and Bengal. from India on Sunday, November 26, 2006 at 07:08 - IP Logged
In WB there is only one language for communication. That is STRIKE and DHARNA.
Start the planned agitation or else once you miss the bus ,you will keep on begging for small grants from WBG.
IIT Roorkee got its due recognition some years back.
R we IDIOTS?
If yes then -->carry on celebrating with the peanuts.
If NOT then-->
'Arise, Awake & stop not till the goal is reached'
Comments by well wisher alumnus from Canada on Saturday, November 25, 2006 at 15:01 - IP Logged
PM's/Arjun Sigh's absence on 150 years celebration indicates they are not considering IIEST/INI status.It does not require much of grey matters to understand that.WBGis just misleading and delaying things to stall the process of conversion to IIEST.Ihope our teachers,students and alumni stillhave that much of greymatters in their head to understand that.Please start agitation again to snatch IIEST status. Nothing less is acceptable.Politicians do'nt understand any other language.
Comments by well wisher alumnus/BEC / XLRI from Canada on Saturday, November 25, 2006 at 14:27 - IP Logged
Start uncomprosing agitation for conversion to IIEST.These people are trying to mislead to keep their control over Besu. They are coming up with Kichuri Schemes which will be nothing like IIT or IIEST. If we are serious about Besu's future development into an indian institute, we must go for hard path otherwise WBG will never give its nod.
Comments by well wisher alumnus 71 batch from Canada on Friday, November 24, 2006 at 18:08 - IP Logged
Besu is the institute of the bengal for the bengaland by the bengal. outside bengalnobody knowsBEC orfor that matter people outside bengal know onlyCalcutta university andall other universities(including JU)are totally unknown both nationally and internationally.the situation is not going to change unless we transform besu into INI/IIEST.the very name suggests that we are a state institute.Please revert to agitation to avail the Golden opportunity of conversion intoIIEST.
Comments by An alumnus of BEC and FMS-DU from India on Friday, November 24, 2006 at 16:41 - IP Logged
Without IIT/INI status BESU stands nowhere.
Following is my own experience I faced 100 times:
Q:Which college you have studied?
A:From Shibpur BEC,Howrah.
Q:Is it near Calcutta?
A:It is the 2nd oldest Engg College in India.
Recently I got shocked with the recent FDI trend in India.
Kolkata stands at 8th position with a sorry figure of only 1.32%(pea nuts) where Delhi topped with 24% and Mumbai is second with 22%.
So Please Please 'Arise,Awake & stop not till the goal is reached'
Comments by well wisher alumnus/BEC / XLRI from Canada on Friday, November 24, 2006 at 14:19 - IP Logged
I think our respected dadas from calcutta are interested in promoting themselves to the state bosses. They are not at all interested to see BEC as IIEST.Only uncompromising agitation by current students and teachers can make Besu an INI/IIEST and that is only way to improve Besu and get rid of the people who are spoiling the golden opportunity to convert it into an world class institute.Please start agitation again if you want to save Besu from further downfall.
Comments by Wel Wisher from Russian Federation on Friday, November 24, 2006 at 12:33 - IP Logged
Alas, did you not treat the media with at least hi-tea ? Even highest offices are doing that for getting good coverages.
About your Secretary : where is the time beyond corporate ladder climbimg at any cost ? But Secretariship is a part of Social imaging.
Comments by An alumnus from United States on Friday, November 24, 2006 at 09:22 - IP Logged
Can someone update us about the event? Did WBCM or Higher Education Minister mention anything about IIEST(INI) status of our Alma Mater? Please let us know. We need to hear about IIEST(INI), nothing else.
Thanks,
Comments by S.S.Ganguly from India on Friday, November 24, 2006 at 07:16 - IP Logged
Today I had attended the inaugural ceremony of the 150 year celebrations where we heard encouraging addresses from the CM,Minister Higher Education, VC and others.In this connection we would like to add our might from the BECollege Ex-Students' Club, Bidhannagar. Our Secretary Sri Santanu Chatterjee would like to invite some of you who are directly involved in the upgrading scenario to attend a meeting on Dec.17 . Please let me know whom to contact for the invitation.
S.S.Ganguly (55 Civil)
Comments by Arunava Biswas from Norway on Friday, November 24, 2006 at 04:06 - IP Logged
It is really painful to see that there is complete abscence of media coverage on national basis apart from a few from Calcutta based papers on 150 th Anniversary celebration by BESU . There was no initiative either from the college authorities or the present students to even publish ads in leading national News papers and TV etc letting the Nation atleast know about BESU and its aim.Across India, nobody even knows about BESU and such celebration except a few alumni.This is painful indeed.
Comments by Saswata Misra, 94 CST from Chad on Thursday, November 23, 2006 at 21:23 - IP Logged
This is clearly a moment of truth for the college. Either they fight it out to get IIEST status or be counted as one of the 2000 institutes in India with a provincial flavor. The lead for this must come from the faculty/ students, not alumni. In our times we could say that we are from Univ of Calcutta. Now BESU does not have any brand recognition. I am told (hopefully wrongly) that students nowadays prefer private colleges in SaltLake and Kidderpore over BEC. It is really a pity if it is true!
Comments by A silent watcher from Kolkata from India on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 23:38 - IP Logged
I join the same appeal -
'Arise , Awake & stop not till the goal is reached'
Without INI status everything is meaningless.
Comments by An alumnus from United States on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 16:18 - IP Logged
No, money alone will not solve the problems of BESU. It needs national/international brand and national/international culture with students, faculty and administration! Of course, it needs transparency, accountability and less dependence of party politics. Hence, only answer is IIEST(INI), no band-aid will solve the down hill fall of a heritage institution.
“Arise , Awake & stop not till the goal is reached” – Swami Vivekananda
Comments by p.basu from Australia on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 16:08 - IP Logged
As I expected looks like this is the end of the road for BESU. Thanks to the myopic vision of WB Govt state leaders. Hopefully, the Central Govt should at least commit to BESU the promised yearly grant.
Comments by well wisher alumnus from Canada on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 09:02 - IP Logged
Hindu has reported very correctly. compare this with telegraph's reporting-full of wrong info.and bias.However Besu students, teachers ,alumni and all other stake holders may start their agitation and continue till we achieve our goal of INI/IIEST.
Comments by An alumnus of BEC and FMS-DU from India on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 08:41 - IP Logged
This is a again a request to all who are currently in BEC please start the planned agitation.
Don’t get befooled by the sugar coated words.
I am repeating one of my comrade's posting:
Arise , Awake & stop not till the goal is reached ~ Vivekananda
Comments by An alumnus of BEC and FMS-DU from India on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 08:40 - IP Logged
The WB govt/UPA must do their best for the IIT/INI tag for BEC--we must get it.
If WBG think that not by upgrading BEC to IIT will benefit them-->that’s a mistake.
A lot of the distinguished alumni’s effort will make it possible sooner or later but its better for all of us to get it soon and for WB as by helping us to get the IIT tag can bring more FDI to Bengal and India.
Comments by well wisher alumnus/BEC / XLRI from Canada on Sunday, November 19, 2006 at 13:10 - IP Logged
sorry for typing errors. please read "obesessed with " and "a little"
Comments by well wisher alumnus/BEC / XLRI from Canada on Sunday, November 19, 2006 at 13:07 - IP Logged
In this page on the left side we can see IIT celebrating their annual meet at Mumbai.They are making it a Global event with Shashi Tharoor( a product of St.Xavier School Calcutta)from UNO as one of the invitee.We at Besu not even able to cross the border of Bengal in our 150 years celebration. While a student of BEC during 1966-71, we learned Communists think international, now we find them obesesseed regional feeling. Can we learn a litte from IITians when we aspire to an IIEST.
Comments by Tanmoy from India on Sunday, November 19, 2006 at 03:38 - IP Logged
Indeed a very SAD news ahead of the D Day.
Comments by An alumnus from India on Saturday, November 18, 2006 at 00:00 - IP Logged
The HT article is interesting. If Priyaranjan Dasmunsi lobbies for BESU, why other our state ministers are silent? I guess unless Sudarshan Roychoudhury does not clarify his position, he should not visit BESU.
Comments by well wisher alumnus from Canada on Friday, November 17, 2006 at 13:42 - IP Logged
Probably our respected Dadas from Kolkata are more interested to please their state level bosses and manage something from them rather than push for all india institute and displease higher ups in WBG. We should rather give up our demand for INI / IIEST and develop Besu for the Bengalees and by the Bengalees and confine ourselves in Bengal only.
Comments by well wisher alumnus from India on Friday, November 17, 2006 at 08:20 - IP Logged
We are aspiring to be an all india institute and in our 150 years celebration,no body is attending from GOI.This is funny a situation.Can our bosses from the state convert Besu into IIEST?Are they at all interested? In the name of burgaining with GOI,HEG of WBG will only delay the process and thereby spoil the chances of conversion of Besu intoINI.Do not be befooled by the evil design of state authorities.Go ahead with the agitation and stop not till we achieve our goal of INI.
Comments by An alumnus from India on Thursday, November 16, 2006 at 23:18 - IP Logged
Arise , Awake & stop not till the goal is reached ~ Vivekananda
Comments by pbasu from Australia on Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 15:44 - IP Logged
What is the latest news about IIEST SIbpur.
Comments by Alumnus of BEC and XLRI from Canada on Friday, November 10, 2006 at 08:57 - IP Logged
Yes uncompromising agitation only works in Bengal / India. We are fighting for a just cause earned over 150 years. Go ahead you will have all the support.WBG is not going to give their nod unless they are compelled to. But showing this probability they will shift the WBJEE office in which the other university is very much interested. With JEE H.O. in BESU, it has not been possible to manipulate so long.
Comments by An alumnus of BEC and FMS-DU. from India on Friday, November 10, 2006 at 08:37 - IP Logged
This is a request to all who are currently in BEC please start the planned agitation.
Until and unless we show our urgency and strength probably they will not pay attention.
We must get the IIT/INI tag on the eve of 150 yr celebration.
Nothing is Final in today's world and everything is possible.
So INI/IIT status is also possible but its now or never.
Start the planned agitation/hunger strike.
We will get it. Go and snatch it.
Jai Hind.
BEC Jindabad.
Comments by pbasu from Australia on Friday, November 10, 2006 at 03:41 - IP Logged
There was a plan for agitation by the student-staff community of BE College. Its time all of them begin their agitation. WB leaders lost their vision many many years ago. Central Govt's plan to centralise university education is very practical and its time WB govt understand these things.
Comments by well wisher alumnus from Canada on Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 21:48 - IP Logged
WBG is the biggest hurdle in the conversion process of Besu. they converted BEC into a university not for its development but only to avoid supreme court directive for centralised admission to deemed universities. If Besu's stake holders want its conversion to IIEST, they have to go for uncompromising agitational path. WBG is not going to give its approval otherwise.
Comments by Well wishers from India on Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 12:22 - IP Logged
As a follow-up with my previous comment (it only supports 500 characters comment - too bad), the same old position is still going on for last 4 years with all those empty promises. BECDU/BESU will only admit based on WBJEE. Unless WB Govt changes its position on this, nothing is going to happen even if it gets money from MHRD and World Bank. It needs National/International Character in this new global system. Let's common sense prevails and make it soon, please.
Comments by Well wishers from India on Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 12:16 - IP Logged
I do not see any reason attacking news media as they are doing their civic duties. If you have "guts", please speak out about all decision makers including WB Govt.
Read an article The Telegraph published in Friday, May 23, 2003 which says - "Shibpur campus pitch for varsity rank
- Upgrade in status will help avoid Delhi directive on Centralised admission test". To read it on-line remove spaces from the URL.
http://www.telegraphindia.com /1030523/asp/calcutta/story_1992309.asp
Comments by pbasu from Australia on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 at 15:49 - IP Logged
The WB govt. should come out clean about its intentions. They should forthwith relinquish control over BESU once and for all. It is true and quite logical that the cenral govt who is willing to take over BESU attach conditions relating to administration and admission procedures in BESU if they are transforming BESU into an all India institution. THis situation is similar to 50 years ago when Pandit Nehru's idea was rejected by the then CM of WB. But the world was different and West BEngal too.
Comments by pbasu from Australia on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 at 15:42 - IP Logged
I am absolutely appalled to know from the latest situation about BESU upgrade to INI as reported by Telegraph. I had an inkling this sort of situation would arise. In spite of requests by BESU alumnus, students and teachers all that reulted was priya ranjan das munshi resquesting HRD boss to finalise the Central govt decision about BESU-INI by 24th Nov. The answer was negative because so far WB govt is still undecided about whether to tranfer power over BESU to the Indian GOvt.
Comments by well wisher alumnus from India on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 at 14:40 - IP Logged
telegraph is having a number of people from the other school.And with their yellow journalism,they are deliberately trying to tarnish the image of all old highly respected institutions like Presidency / BEC / CU just to upgrade their image for quite some time now and to an extent they have been successful.let us not allow them to further damage our cause.
Comments by An Anon Alumnus from India on Monday, November 06, 2006 at 23:20 - IP Logged
I believe it is not fair to attack any paper even though we know The Telegraph is biased towards JU and Aajkaal towards WB Govt. But in general they are doing good job for this INI initiative.
I think we should ask WB Govt to understand what they want. Why they are bringing "other school" along with BESU as "other school" did not want to become an IIT and why they want to join BESU now as BESU is knocking door for INI.
We hope BESU does not loose due to negotiation with Delhi.
Comments by Well Wisher of Bengal. from India on Monday, November 06, 2006 at 23:11 - IP Logged
To The Chief Editor of The Telegraph,
If you or your people dont know the matter or dont understand English then dont publish rubbish.
BEC will be upgraded to INI--> may take some more time.
Comments by well wisher from India on Monday, November 06, 2006 at 21:37 - IP Logged
Telegraph is unable to shed off their hang over for JU, which has been ruled out from the race by anadkrishnan committee/GOI. The question now is about Besu,whether WBG will agree to relinquish its control to allow its coversion to IIEST.Telegraph's reporters either do'nt understand english or they are deliberately making it confusing to somehow put JU back in the race. Their reporting is absolutely rubbish and full of wrong and misleading information.we may waitfor reports fromStatesman.
Comments by well wisher alumnus from Canada on Monday, November 06, 2006 at 20:14 - IP Logged
This damaging and confusing news from Telegraph has totally devastated our hope.But let us be united and go for all out fight in whatever way possible to achieve our goal of conversion to INI/ IIEST. Remember REC Durgapore students had to go for violent movement to snatch approval of WBG for NIT.Thatis theway our politicians move and they take right decisions only when they are forced to. We should prepare ourselves for the fight to save our institute and get what we deserve.
Comments by well wisher alumnus from Canada on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 at 07:17 - IP Logged
We should also send a copy of our joint appeal to Higher Education Minister, Govt. of West Bengal as he is supposed to initiate and move the proposal ahead from WBG's side.
Comments by Well Wisher of Bengal. from India on Monday, October 30, 2006 at 21:44 - IP Logged
Good News!
Good for BEC and Bengal.
Thanks! to The Telegraph for supporting our cause.
Comments by well wisher alumnus from Canada on Sunday, October 29, 2006 at 17:50 - IP Logged
Is there any move from calcutta front to mobilise few eminent academicians like our respectesd Prof. Shankar Sen and other similar personalities to convince WBG about benefits and urgency of cnverting Besu into IIEST. This is a must for Bengal and also for Besu keeping requirements of engineering and scientific talents Bengal and the country will need in future to survive in the global competition.
Comments by well wisher alumnus from Canada on Thursday, October 26, 2006 at 09:20 - IP Logged
Thanks to all industry captains and news medias for supporting converstion of Besu to IIEST. But why Anandabazar is silent on this issue ? Is it less important that all rubbish published in the news paper ?
Comments by Well Wisher of Bengal. from India on Sunday, October 22, 2006 at 21:10 - IP Logged
Many Thanks! To Mr Shiddharta Sengupta of Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) Mumbai, Mr Sudhangshu Sekhar Chakraborty of Consultancy Engineering Services (CES), Delhi, Mr Amitabha Ghosal, managing director Stup, Mr Susanta Chandra, factory manager Kitchen Appliances, Mr Goutam Chatterjee, director of Exide for their wholehearted support.
Thanks! to all the newspaper (The Telegraph also) for such a coverage.
Nothing less than IIT/INI is acceptable.
Keep it up!
BEC Jindabad.
Comments by pbasu from Australia on Sunday, October 22, 2006 at 20:52 - IP Logged
The comments by lalu is very interesting.It is quite common in industrialised countries especially in USA and UK that University funding rely solely on private sector research grants. If that culture is introduced in India it will be great.R and D work will be carried out in universities in collaboration with industries and India would be in a good position as far as global Intellectual property rights are concerned. private sector should place an offer to BESU in order to save the college .
Comments by PPM from India on Sunday, October 22, 2006 at 20:23 - IP Logged
Now that the Higher Education Minister had stated his position, however confusing it seems to be, any thoughts on formulating a collective response? Unfortunately the State Govt. has decided to play parochial and party politics with the BESU's future. It has to be stated very clearly to the Minister in no uncertain terms that anything short of IIEST-INI status for BESU is unacceptable.
Comments by well wisher alumnus from Canada on Saturday, October 21, 2006 at 13:57 - IP Logged
News suggest that WBG is trying to take advantage of the central funds keeping Besu's admission and administration under their control. This is like a all india institute with state control and reservation. Very funny proposal.It is something unheard or unimaginable so far. But I am afraid, in this burgaining/delaying strategy taken by the HEM/WBG,Besu will again miss the bus.Let us keep our pressure on,so that if this burgaining process fails,we can go all out to make IIEST a reality.
Comments by Well wisher from India on Friday, October 20, 2006 at 22:29 - IP Logged
From Ganashakti (CPM's party paper) article, it seems West Bengal Govt has started bargaining with MHRD. It will be interesting to see how MHRD reacts to West Bengal's proposal on students admission, governance and continued funding after 11th plan.
Comments by well wisher alumnus from Canada on Friday, October 20, 2006 at 05:55 - IP Logged
In Sixties when we took admission in BEC, JEE was open to all and tests were conducted in all major cities of India(JU used to admit on the basis of HS results). In fact we should train our boys to shine in all india scenario. Otherwise we will have situations like our HSS toppers not making it even within 1000 or 2000 of IITJEE or even WBJEE and an university just for cheap publicity,bending rules to accomodate such candidates. BESU has to open its door for all to have IIEST status.
Comments by lalu from India on Friday, October 20, 2006 at 05:20 - IP Logged
in the context of globalisation,one have to look into the fact that after 5 years, this institute will be handed over to some industrialist.and definitely the bengal people will be the looser.
Comments by pbasu from Australia on Friday, October 20, 2006 at 04:11 - IP Logged
I wish this will not be a lost battle. Unless there can be an Act introduced in parliament under which an educational institution may be heritage listed so that it will be mandatory for the state govt to hand over the administration of BESU to the central govt. I am just imagining things but in any other country this tussle between the state govt and central govt over an age old institution will be seen as a big joke.
Wake up WB Govt . Do not miss this opportunity.
Comments by Anonymous from India on Thursday, October 19, 2006 at 20:01 - IP Logged
Guys,
You are missing the point here. If WB Govt (read CPM party) lose the control of BEC / BESU, how are they going to recuit, train, groom the next generation of "intellectual" cadres? It doen't take a lot of grey matter to decipher it. It is not about getting their kids admitted in BEC and the way things are going at BEC / BESU only the kids of these party comrades will get admitted in BEC.
Good luck in fighting a "lost" battle.
Comments by pbasu from Australia on Thursday, October 19, 2006 at 17:08 - IP Logged
This WB govt and Central Govt tussle over BE College is becoming a big joke. WB Govt does not possess adequate resources to manage a heritage listed college (should be) like B E College. So why are they not handing over the Collge to Central Govt? This will be good for WB.
Comments by Well Wisher of Bengal. from India on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 at 21:15 - IP Logged
Some better news!
The bottom line is we must get the IIT/INI tag.
Central and WB Govt must agree on whatever selection procedure they are OK with.
WB Govt is also a part of UPA Govt so they will sit together and deceide but they should ensure that BEC must get the IIT/INI tag.
It is mandatory for WB's future to upgrade BEC to INI/IIT.
Comments by well wisher from Canada on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 at 15:20 - IP Logged
I find telegraph has an agenda against besu. when besu tops the list in the country for INI status, they never gives it a highlight but when some other institute come fist even in not so important criteria like using fund even at the state level, telegraph makes it a head line. it is really funny. but somebody in the media is playing games and media hype creates unrealistic image among masses.Probably some people are not happy with the selection of besu as the top insitute for conversion into IIEST and they must be politicking to spoil the image of besu even now to scuttle its chance of becoming an INI. We should be aware of such moves and handle media particularly telegraph/ anandabazar group in a way that they should not atleast try to damage our image at this juncture.
Comments by Well Wisher of Bengal. from India on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 at 00:25 - IP Logged
But can WB Govt clearly says why and what’s the problem with the all India admission entrance?
The Probable answer might be they want to have some of their kids to get admission in BEC through BACK DOOR in near future which will not be possible if BEC becomes an INI.
I suggest WB govt to upgrade another Engg. Institution to a State Engg. College & do whatever you want to do and let BEC flourish to an IIT/INI.
This is a humble request from an ordinary Bengali Boy who graduated from BEC more than 10 years ago and left Calcutta ,worked all over the world and planning to go back to Calcutta with a bigger Plan to set up a SW facility in Calcutta in near future but will be compelled to go to some other place(probable South) if BEC not upgraded to INI/IIT.
Comments by Well Wisher of Bengal. from India on Monday, October 16, 2006 at 20:58 - IP Logged
Cant expect anything more than this useless WB Govt. Forget FDIs and Development WB will be turned into sanctuary of Bangladeshi illegal immigrants.
This govt don’t respect Netaji and Vivekananda so whatever is good they will not approve and will only think about their narrow personal gains.
But we need to stick to our stand that is its now or never so don’t get befooled by sugar coated words of this Govt what they have been doing for last 30 years and brought WB into its current state.
This govt has nothing to loose,they dont care what the outside world think about them but our College's future is at stake.
So fight it out at whatever the cost it might be, it is final— Now or Never.
Jai Hind.
Comments by Well wishers from United States on Monday, October 16, 2006 at 16:23 - IP Logged
This is absolutely non-sense from West Bengal Govt. It dreams to get 500 crore for each University admitting students based on WBJEE and controlling them in "participatory mode". I guess Higher Education Minister should have told faculty team - we will not upgrade as we do not agree with all India basis students' admission like IIT-JEE or AIEEE and agree with IIEST Council, two most important requirements BESU authority delegated to WB Govt.
Comments by well wisher from Canada on Monday, October 16, 2006 at 15:06 - IP Logged
The report in statesman dated oct.17 is very confusing. let the BESU athorities come out with an official statement about the outcome of the meeting. Is it possible for anybody to eat the cake and have it too ? Probably instead of denying it directly, HEM of WBG is trying to give a false of impression of making the impossible possible. Let BESU teachers, students and alumni all over the world not be befooled by HEM /WBG and be prepared to take the movement ahead to make IIEST a reality, come what may. I reiterate the saying of general secretary of besu teachers' association as reported in a news paper that We will go as far as necessary to convert BESU (the top institute selected by Anandkrishnan committee) into IIEST. Let us not forget it is now or never for Besu.
Comments by Saibal K. Ghosal from United States on Friday, October 13, 2006 at 11:27 - IP Logged
This is it!
United we stand against all odds and challenges. Congratulations to all those who spearheaded such a movement and stood up for the right cause. Keep your heads high.
Saibal K. Ghosal
1988 CST
Atlanta, USA
Comments by Ray from India on Friday, October 13, 2006 at 00:01 - IP Logged
Excellent.Keep it up!
We will get it.
Comments by Prabal Choudhury 71 Electrical from Canada on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 at 17:06 - IP Logged
Excellent Stand by the Students and Teachers of the Great Institution BESU as reported in Telegraph. Alumni all over the World Support this movement whole heartedly. Let us all stand united come what may. No body can deny BESU its hard earned position as the Top Institute for conversion to IIEST (INI). No Compromise on this issue. If we stand united and express our uncompromising attitude, I am sure authorities will be compelled to agree as they are on wrong foot. Come what may, Let us Make it Happen Now.
Comments by Well Wisher from Canada on Thursday, October 05, 2006 at 01:35 - IP Logged
From the most recent Telegraph article it seems IIT status is increasingly likely as the state governmewnt has at least decided to speak about the isuue, something they have never done before.Its difficult to see how the new admissions procedure for the IIESTs could be anyhting other than IIT JEE as IT BHU already selects from the IIT JEE list and I doubt they would be interested in selecting from any other exam. If the IIESTs are to be at par with each other than all of them must select from the same admissions exam. Whats not clear from the article is whether the new admissions procedure will be in place from 2007 IIT JEE or 2008 IIT JEE. the article states it will be from the next session but 2006-2007 academic session has already begun. I think the sooner the better.
Comments by Ray from India on Thursday, October 05, 2006 at 00:14 - IP Logged
Hi,
I work as a IT Project Manager in one of the largest banks of the world. Previously I worked with big IT companies like CSC and IBM and in one of the communication meetings of CSC we were told that the company will not set up a centre in Calcutta rather they will go to South for expansion when some of us suggested Calcutta for a prospective new facility. It was very shameful experience for me.
But now if BESU does not get IIT/INI tag just for some unknown reason then probably many other company will also avoid setting up a new facility in Calcutta.
We will definitely fight and will get it.
Best Regards,
Ray.
Comments by well wisher from Canada on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 at 15:03 - IP Logged
If what AB says from India is the situation, then we have to create a force combining students, faculty and alumni members in calcutta to get it. Besu has topped the list and how can it be deprived of this glorious opportunity. The students of REC Durgapore had to apply force to snatch approval from HEM of WBG for its conversion to NIT. IIT Guahati was also created after lots of agitation by the people of Assam. that is the tradition in India/ WB. We have to be ready for a show down if nothings happens on persuation. If we fail this time, it will be never for Besu and its survival will be at stake.
Comments by Amitava Jana from United States on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 at 10:05 - IP Logged
In this context, we should read the following article and pursue our visionary CM, not only for Shibpur IIT but also for more medical colleges in our State.
"CM's Dasara gift: AP gets more colleges"
......The engineering college each in Karimnagar and Vizianagaram districts would be affiliated to JNTU. Referring to medical colleges, he said there were 32 colleges (11 government and 21 private) spread across all districts barring Adilabad, Srikakulam and Prakasam.
"Hence, we have decided to open three medical colleges in these districts which will be granted autonomy on the lines of the recently-opened Rajiv Institute of Medical Sciences in Kadapa,"he said. Each college would take 150 students.
"We have asked the departments concerned to prepare project reports and also the implementation procedures. We want
to get things done fast and start the colleges as early as possible,"he said.
Regarding dearth of faculty in medical college, he said: "We are making the recruitment process flexible by granting autonomy to the government medical colleges."
To another question, the CM said the request for setting up an IIT at Basara in Adilabad district was still pending with the central government.
"Of the five engineering colleges that have been upgraded to IIT in the country, two are in AP — the Andhra University Engineering College and the Osmania University College of Engineering. But still, we are requesting the Centre to set up an exclusive IIT at Basara. We wish it comes fast,"Rajasekhara Reddy said.........
Read the complete article in
http://timesofindia.indiatimes. com/articleshow/2062238.cms
............
Comments by AB from India on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 at 00:01 - IP Logged
I came to know from a very reliable source actively associated with WB gov. that they will never let BESU out of its'control come what may or how much convincing the logics are.This is latest and real. Really upset about the development.Do not know how the senior Alumni or global academicia is going to pursue the cause.
Comments by Anonymous from India on Thursday, September 28, 2006 at 20:10 - IP Logged
I feel it will be a good idea to join hands with IT-BHU and fight for IIT status. BEC and BHU can not get the same treatment with the other three colleges in the list.
Comments by Well Wisher from Canada on Thursday, September 28, 2006 at 07:14 - IP Logged
The author seems to clearly agree with our stance on the issue and suggests only BESU and ITBHU deserves full conversion to IIT.
"Take for example: the case of Bengal Engineering College. The second oldest engineering college (after University of Roorkee, now IIT Roorkee) in the country, should have been declared an IIT a long time ago, without any need to form a committee. This college provided substantial percentage of faculty to the IITs since their inceptions."
Comments by well wisher from Canada on Sunday, September 24, 2006 at 08:36 - IP Logged
I find all quite on the calcutta front. Is anything happening there or we are waiting for our luck to make things happen. should we expect anybody from calcutta informs us the latest thinking of the decision makers on the IIEST issue ? there is very little activity in Calcutta or Bengal in this regard and we do'nt find much information in the press also. Why our present students are silent on this issue ? It appears BESU will miss this last opportunity for its survival.
Comments by well wisher from Canada on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 at 15:07 - IP Logged
While BESU Teachers' Association has made an appeal to CM for conversion of Besu to IIEST, the students unions so far have not responded or atleast not indicated their stand in this website. Probably the students union affiliated to the ruling party can make a large difference if they come out with whole hearted support for conversion of BESU to IIEST. Students irrespective of political affiliations should understand the importance of elevating BESU to IIEST Sibpore and this is the most opportune time to give it the momentum for availing the golden opportunity knocking at the door of BESU Sibpore. They should visualise the tremendous development this will bring in the academic and research areas of Besu which will ultimately lift the brand image and create much better career opportunities in future at par with IITs and IISc. May we expect our present students to unite for this cause and make their stand known to the decision makers. Let us go by the slogan of our visionary CM "DO IT NOW ".
Comments by well wisher from Canada on Saturday, September 16, 2006 at 09:07 - IP Logged
It is not about blaming anybody. with respect to all our senior alumni, i must say that we should probably work to improve our luck, if there is anything called luck. if we have depended on luck only, probably we have not been identified as the best institute for upgradation to IIEST. It is due to very hard work put in by our web team,many alumni and the college that we have reached this stage. I again reiterate, it is not blaming anybody, it is just an appeal only to our senior alumni in calcutta or nearby areas, who may influence the decision makers.
Comments by pbasu from Australia on Saturday, September 16, 2006 at 03:42 - IP Logged
Its pointless to blame the alumni based in Calcutta. BESU conversion to IIT/INI depends on the extent of foresight within the WB government. Do they have any foresight. Years ago they were bent on abolishing the joint entrance examination. I think no amount of request put forward to WB govt will work. The fate of BESU is luck. Only if WB Govt becomes an enlightened force-- lets hope for the best.
Comments by well wisher from Canada on Friday, September 15, 2006 at 12:15 - IP Logged
It appears that alumni living outside calcutta or abroad are more concerned about the future of BEC. It is easier for the alumni living in calcutta or nearby to convince the decision makers favouraly. But if we are waiting for the things to happen rather than making it happen, probably BESU will miss the bus this time also.
Comments by Well Wisher from India on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 at 23:18 - IP Logged
Let someone (from Kolkata or WB) react to the message of Well Wisher, Canada.
Comments by Well Wisher from Canada on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 at 18:20 - IP Logged
we dont find any information from our calcutta based senior alumni. Is there any move by our senior alumni in calcutta to persuade our respected Prof.Dr. Shankar Sen to have a few words with our visionery CM ? Kindly take appropriate actions without any further delay. otherwise Besu will miss the bus once for all.

 

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